From: James M. Atkinson Date: Thu Jan 10, 2002 9:42pm Subject: You Might Be A Redneck If (2002 Edition) You Might Be A Redneck If (2002 Edition) You take your dog for a walk and you both use the same tree. You can entertain yourself for more than an hour with a fly swatter. Your property has been mistaken for a recycling center. Your boat has not left the driveway in 15 years. You burn your yard rather than mow it. You think the Nutcracker is something you did off the high dive. The Salvation Army declines your mattress. Your entire family sat around waiting for a call from the governor to spare a loved one. You offer to give someone the shirt off your back and they don't want it. You have the local taxidermist on speed dial. You come back from the dump with more than you took. You keep a can of Raid on the kitchen table. Your wife can climb a tree faster than your cat. Your grandmother has "Ammo" on her Christmas list. You've been kicked out of the zoo for heckling the monkeys. You think a subdivision is part of a math problem. You've bathed with flea and tick soap. You've been involved in a custody fight over a hunting dog. Your kids take a siphon hose to show and tell. You think a hot tub is a stolen indoor plumbing fixture. You took a fishing pole to Sea World. You go to the stock car races and don't need a program. You know how many bales of hay your car will hold. You have a rag for a gas cap. Your father executes the "Pull my finger" trick during Christmas dinner. Your house doesn't have curtains but your truck does. You wonder how service stations keep their restrooms so clean. You can spit without opening your mouth. You consider your license plate personalized because your father made it. Your lifetime goal is to own a fireworks stand. You sit on your roof at Christmas time hoping to fill your deer quota. You have a complete set of salad bowls and they all say Cool Whip on the side. The biggest city you've ever been to is Wal-Mart. Your working TV sits on top of your non-working TV. You thought the Unibomber was a wrestler. You've used your ironing board as a buffet table. You think a quarter horse is that ride in front of K-Mart. Your neighbors think you're a detective because a cop always brings you home. A tornado hits your neighborhood and does a $100,000 worth of improvement. You've used a toilet brush as a back scratcher. You've asked the preacher "How's it hangin'?" You missed 5th grade graduation because you had jury duty. You think fast food is hitting a deer at 65 mph. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and The Most Complete TSCM, Bug Sweep, Spy Hunting, and Counterintelligence Site on the Internet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. AtkinsonPhone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island GroupFax: 127 Eastern Avenue #291http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008mailto:jmatk@tscm.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. - George Orwell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4504 From: Shawn Hughes Date: Thu Jan 10, 2002 11:58pm Subject: Re: CCS/D.Robinson&Steve You know, I was going to comment on what Mr. Robinson stated. Then, I read Mr. Uhrig's response (I'm on digest, sometimes it runs late.) I started in computers before pc's had hard drives. However, in the years of pine, elm, irc, and all these new listservs, I have NEVER read such a thorough, complete, and utterly resounding response. No stone left unturned, or flung. Not even room for a cogent response. However, to defend the radio shack of surveillance/cs (ccs), this Robinson fellow has got to be a trouble-starting troll. What other reason would he have to make the statements he made? Shawn 4505 From: David Alexander Date: Fri Jan 11, 2002 9:21am Subject: Re: attacking CCS Steve, I just read your comprehensive demolition of David Robinson. Very, very well said sir. I just wish I could figure out how to send you a standing ovation from a 70,000 seater stadium, because that's what you deserve for having the guts to say what most people were thinking. We need more people like you who can expose the charlatans and con artists to give the rest of us a chance. Very best wishes and have a good weekend. 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Transients are really important in the area of detecting frequency hopping and spread spectrum transmitters, On an aside, in 1968 I was designing recording studio equipment in Hollywood. The bandwidth of frequency response of professional audio in those days was about out to 18k. I designed equipment at that time with high speed opamps that would pass 60k square waves. When I presented my equipment at the audio engineering convention in New York all the engineers from other companies would come to my booth ask why bother having extended bandwidth if the human hearing goes only to 18k. The answer is that the human ear perceives high frequency transients as holes in the complex waves that it can perceive in the 30hz to 18khz hearing range. Within a year all professional audio equipment had bandwidths of at least 60k. Best, Roger 4507 From: Hawkspirit Date: Fri Jan 11, 2002 11:18am Subject: Re: Theory (brought to mind by Comsec C3I discussion) From: "James M. Atkinson" "What I am in interested in the electrical behavior of a line during the loop relay seizing the line, and releasing it, and more specifically the "overshoot" areas of the signal. I am also interested in the frequencies that appear right at the moments of making, and then of breaking the line." Jim, Could you amplify on this, what kind of line behavior, in what form of result, would indicate what form of intercept? Thanks, Roger 4508 From: Steve Uhrig Date: Fri Jan 11, 2002 11:20am Subject: Creative assistance needed Hi all, I'm asking here because this list is now approximately 1200 members strong, and this is somewhat of an appropriate place to pose a request. Beginning in May, I will be publishing a monthly column in Police & Security News Magazine with questions and answers on surveillance and related technical investigation technology, to include TSCM. Readers of the magazine will ask questions of me by email, and I will answer several selected questions each month and print the questions and answers in the magazine. Here's what I need: > A name for the column ! Unfortunately I cannot solicit subscriptions to the magazine as it is controlled distribution to law enforcement only. Please feel free (per Jim, owner of this list) to post suggestions here to the list. That may encourage other suggestions and avoid redundancy. I'll select one or two of my favorites from those submitted here, and run them by the editor of the magazine. If your name is selected, I'll compensate you in some way via my used equipment page or something similar. The only one I've thought of so far, and I am not creative, is 'Everything you wanted to know about surveillance technology, but didn't know who to ask'. Feel free to reply to me directly if you do not want your name to appear on the list. Otherwise, please post your reply to the list. Note to do that, you can't merely reply to this message or your reply will come to me, not to the list (this measure was instituted for security reasons some time back). Address any suggestions to TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com. Picking names for products is one of the more difficult tasks in engineering. Same thing with newsletters and columns. I do not have a creative bone in my body. Can't draw stick figures. Thanks all. Steve ******************************************************************* Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 "In God we trust, all others we monitor" ******************************************************************* 4509 From: William Knowles Date: Fri Jan 11, 2002 11:37am Subject: Re: Creative assistance needed On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Steve Uhrig wrote: Hello Steve & All! I haven't had enough Red Bull yet, but off the top of my mind comes... Off The Wire! Cheers! William Knowles wk@c... > I'm asking here because this list is now approximately 1200 > members strong, and this is somewhat of an appropriate place to > pose a request. > > Beginning in May, I will be publishing a monthly column in > Police & Security News Magazine with questions and answers on > surveillance and related technical investigation technology, to > include TSCM. Readers of the magazine will ask questions of me > by email, and I will answer several selected questions each > month and print the questions and answers in the magazine. > > Here's what I need: > > > A name for the column ! > > Unfortunately I cannot solicit subscriptions to the magazine as > it is controlled distribution to law enforcement only. > > Please feel free (per Jim, owner of this list) to post > suggestions here to the list. That may encourage other > suggestions and avoid redundancy. *==============================================================* "Communications without intelligence is noise; Intelligence without communications is irrelevant." Gen Alfred. M. Gray, USMC ================================================================ C4I.org - Computer Security, & Intelligence - http://www.c4i.org *==============================================================* 4510 From: Steve Whitehead Date: Fri Jan 11, 2002 0:59pm Subject: France 'spied on food whistleblower' "A scientist who suggested that the French food industry was cashing in by over-salting products, claims he was spied on by France's security services. Pierre Meneton said in a report to the government that excessive use of salt could be blamed for 75,000 heart attacks each year, a third of which were fatal. Yet the food industry deliberately opposed cutting back on the salt as it benefited from the sale of soft drinks to parched customers, he alleged. The latest issue of Le Point magazine claims France's security agency put him under surveillance once the report was completed. It says spies from the agency placed bugs on his office phone, intercepted calls to his mobile phone and monitored his relatives, friends and colleagues. The report is denied by the French Interior Ministry, the security agency - the Renseignements Generaux (Central Directorate of General Information) - and the French police. 'Security threat' "I noticed that it was from the time that we wanted to hand the file to AFSSA (the French Food Safety Agency) in 2000 that we started to have problems," Mr Meneton told La Chaine Info television. "It is surprising for a researcher who works for a public research institute that public authorities would take such a measure when one tries to improve a public health problem." His report said that a 30% cut in food salting would hit water and soft drinks sales by $5.4bn a year. Le Point says the Interior Ministry classified him as a level-two threat to national security on a par with foreign spies and terrorists. Salt risk Mr Meneton's report to AFSSA was carried in Le Point in February 2001. A month later, AFSSA said it backed reductions on salt levels in food. Sodium is one of salt's major constituents and has been linked to high blood pressure, strokes and heart attacks. But companies say salt is used not only to help taste, but as a preservative and to improve texture" Full Story at http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_1753000/1753433.stm Steve Whitehead TSCM Services URL : http://www.tscm.co.za [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 4511 From: Aimee Farr Date: Fri Jan 11, 2002 4:34pm Subject: Scum, etc. Many of your vendor gripes fall into deceptive advertising and deceptive trade practice territory -- state and federal. In five-stars. Other pressure groups have been extremely successful. ~Aimee http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/173556.html FTC Taking 'Seriously' Request To Probe Firearms Sites By Robert MacMillan, Newsbytes WASHINGTON, D.C., U.S.A., 10 Jan 2002, 11:08 AM CST The Federal Trade Commission today acknowledged it has received a written request from a new gun-safety organization asking the agency to expand its post-Sept. 11 probe of false and misleading Web advertising claims to include firearms Web sites. The agency said today it is giving the matter "serious consideration." [...] 4512 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Fri Jan 11, 2002 5:07pm Subject: Re: Theory (brought to mind by Comsec C3I discussion) At 9:18 AM -0800 1/11/02, Hawkspirit wrote: >From: "James M. Atkinson" > >"What I am in interested in the electrical behavior of a line during >the loop relay seizing the line, and releasing it, and more >specifically the "overshoot" areas of the signal. >I am also interested in the frequencies that appear right at the >moments of making, and then of breaking the line." > >Jim, Could you amplify on this, what kind of line behavior, in what form of >result, would indicate what form of intercept? Thanks, Roger Sure, First I apply a slowly increasing resistance to the line until I seize the line. I repeat this several times until I have a fairly good calculation of the amount of current i need to get flowing to size the line, and the delay between the current draw and the seizure. I then sync my TDR to the circuit so that I start pounding the line with TDR pulse as I approach the seizing current. I then disregard the TDR pulses gathered just prior to the seize so that I am actually looking at TDR pulses during the zero crossing (when it should be really quiet). I can usually grab several hundred usable "pings" during the transition period, and have found it helpful for each "ping" to have a slightly offset rise/fall time or pulse width. The whole goal is to force a predictable zero crossing, and shoot pings into the line during the zero crossing. I start with a 5 pico second ping (using a high energy 90 volt tunnel diode), and slowly increase the rise time and/or pulse width to several milliseconds as I look down the line. I am not using a "sampling" circuit, but actually digitizing and capturing the TDR wave forms directly into a laptop in real time. This way I can see "mouse feces" laying against the wire, and can see any kind of resistive, inductive, or capacitive breach with some extreme resolution. The further down the line I am looking the less the resolution and the wider the pulses. If I can get two lines on the same cable I can ping on one line, and listen to the crosstalk of the signal on the other pair, I can also split the pairing and shoot them that way as well (while in transition). Either way the goal is to locate where the twisting of the pair has been compromised, and not just look for resistive faults. Most sweep methods are obsessed with finding resistive devices in series with the line, or some variation thereof. Sadly, the methods used to find resistive devices are worthless in finding something that is capacitively or inductively isolated (most professional eavesdropping devices are 10-40+ megaohms of impedance, or isolated in such a way that a regular TDR is worthless). The "virgin pair' vs "split pair" TDR will find any kind of inductive coupling on the line (of more then one loop), but you have to do it during the zero crossing. Inductive loading of less then one loop (such as in the case of a linear ferrite pickup) your going to have sweep more then the two wires your looking at (you need a total of four conductors, plus a good ground). Crosstalk analysis will detect any kind of separation or disturbance of the pairs of more then a mm, or even disturbance of the wire insulation (but you have to do it during the zero crossing). It's also helpful to "listen in" to the line with both an audio amp, AND a spectrum analyzer. After you have performed your regular non alerting phone sweep... disconnect the load (or phones), then "listen" to the line with a high impedance audio amp (like Kaisers 1059 or Alan's uAmp), then slowly tune something like the SCD-5 across the line. Next connect your AUDIO (100 Hz to about 10 kHz) spectrum analyzer to the line (though a transient limiter, impedance matching filter, and pre-amp) and look for any kind of control or command tones such as DTMF-C, 2100 Hz, etc (typically appearing as crosstalk). Then switch your your RF spectrum analyzer (though a transient limiter, impedance matching filter, and pre-amp) and look for any kind of RF present on the line. Hint: if someone attaches a transmitter to the line some of the RF will bleed back over the line and you will be able to see it.... however your going to have to "tune" the line to see it reliably. The determine how much current draw you need to seize the line card (remember the phone system works on current draw, not voltage) and bounce some TDR pulses down the line during the zero crossings to see what a regular wet line TDR might miss. The key in all of this is your ability to match the impedance of the line during the transition. This is not just a case of "cranking up the voltage", but one of "tuning up the TDR circuit" though a variable capacitor/varistor and resistor/inductor. You want a near perfect coupling between the TDR (or pulse generator) and the line. To look at it another way, consider that the line is an antenna, and you want a perfect impedance match between a radio, the feed line, and the antenna so you can maximize the signal your giving off or collecting. If you simply crank up your transmit power, but have a bad feed line all you will end of doing is heating up some wire. On the other hand if the feed line has a near perfect match to the radio, and the antenna has a near perfect mach to the feed line all kinds of wonderful things can be done. If you go one step further and fiddle with the antenna and use it at its precise resonant frequency you can work the world with just a small amount of power. Along the same lines if you filter out all the thunder-lizards, tune up your antenna, use good feed lines, and have a good LNA on the antenna you can hear extremely low poer things many thousands of miles away. Now, we take this and apply it to sweeping phone lines: First we find the "quietest time" on the line, which is during the transition point (the loop voltage and dial tone is our thunder lizard). Next we match the impedance of our TDR to the line impedance. Then we "tune" the line by bouncing TDR pulses down the line (with various pulse widths and rise times) while we tweak a capacitor/varactor for clean return (sort of like adjusting an SWR meter). The end result is a super precise series of pulses, clean TDR wave forms, and the exact position of anomalies along the line (including mouse feces touching the line). -jma -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and The Most Complete TSCM, Bug Sweep, Spy Hunting, and Counterintelligence Site on the Internet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. AtkinsonPhone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island GroupFax: 127 Eastern Avenue #291http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008mailto:jmatk@tscm.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. - George Orwell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4513 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Fri Jan 11, 2002 4:00pm Subject: Re: Creative assistance needed How about these: "The Straight Poop" "Crow Whisperings" "Yoda Speaks" "Wizards Corner" "The Teachings of Obi Wan Uhrig" "Teachings of the Black Bag" ;-) -jma At 12:20 PM -0500 1/11/02, Steve Uhrig wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm asking here because this list is now approximately 1200 >members strong, and this is somewhat of an appropriate place to >pose a request. > >Beginning in May, I will be publishing a monthly column in >Police & Security News Magazine with questions and answers on >surveillance and related technical investigation technology, to >include TSCM. Readers of the magazine will ask questions of me >by email, and I will answer several selected questions each >month and print the questions and answers in the magazine. > >Here's what I need: > >> A name for the column ! > >Unfortunately I cannot solicit subscriptions to the magazine as >it is controlled distribution to law enforcement only. > >Please feel free (per Jim, owner of this list) to post >suggestions here to the list. That may encourage other >suggestions and avoid redundancy. > >I'll select one or two of my favorites from those submitted >here, and run them by the editor of the magazine. If your name >is selected, I'll compensate you in some way via my used >equipment page or something similar. > >The only one I've thought of so far, and I am not creative, is >'Everything you wanted to know about surveillance technology, >but didn't know who to ask'. > >Feel free to reply to me directly if you do not want your name >to appear on the list. Otherwise, please post your reply to the >list. Note to do that, you can't merely reply to this message or >your reply will come to me, not to the list (this measure was >instituted for security reasons some time back). > >Address any suggestions to TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com. > >Picking names for products is one of the more difficult tasks in >engineering. Same thing with newsletters and columns. I do not >have a creative bone in my body. Can't draw stick figures. > >Thanks all. > >Steve > > >******************************************************************* >Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) >Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip >mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com >tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 >"In God we trust, all others we monitor" >******************************************************************* -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and The Most Complete TSCM, Bug Sweep, Spy Hunting, and Counterintelligence Site on the Internet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. AtkinsonPhone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island GroupFax: 127 Eastern Avenue #291http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008mailto:jmatk@tscm.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. - George Orwell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4514 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Fri Jan 11, 2002 11:43pm Subject: Boss hid spy camera http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,3569734%255E421,00.html Boss hid spy camera By CHRISTINE CAULFIELD 11jan02 A FACTORY owner installed a video camera in female change rooms to spy on his staff for sexual gratification, a court heard yesterday. Peter Taylor, 50, set up the surveillance camera in a ceiling fan directly above the only female toilet in his car detailing shop. But defence counsel Nicola Gobbo told the Ballarat Magistrates' Court Mr Taylor suspected the staff at Southern Vehicle Enhancements, at Delacombe, were lazing around in the change room. She said Mr Taylor's intention was to monitor staff productivity, and to ensure none were using or dealing drugs on the premises. Magistrate Paul Grant said he could see no need to mount the camera above the toilet if Mr Taylor's aim was to check staff were working. Mr Grant said, on the evidence, it seemed more likely Mr Taylor derived some sexual pleasure from watching staff in the toilet. "It seems to me there is only one thing this person is trying to achieve, and that is to view people," Mr Grant said. In response to Ms Gobbo's claim that her client did not install the camera for some sinister sexual reasons, Mr Grant said: "It seems to me it was". Ms Gobbo said her client, who has also settled a civil suit over the matter, was anxious his staff did not have to give evidence in a criminal court. She said he did not want them to be subject to cross-examination, potentially causing them further distress. But Mr Grant said if Mr Taylor suspected the women were using or dealing drugs in the change room, they had a right to defend themselves. Mr Taylor, of Wiltshire Lane, Sebastopol, has been charged with installing and using a surveillance device and possessing an unregistered firearm, which was also found in the ceiling. The case has been adjourned to February 13. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and The Most Complete TSCM, Bug Sweep, Spy Hunting, and Counterintelligence Site on the Internet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. AtkinsonPhone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island GroupFax: 127 Eastern Avenue #291http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008mailto:jmatk@tscm.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. - George Orwell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4515 From: Steve Uhrig Date: Sat Jan 12, 2002 0:05am Subject: NSA Crypto museum reopening NSA MUSEUM OPEN AGAIN FOR VISITORS: The National Cryptologic Museum has opened to the public again on 13 December but for only on weekdays 9 to 4 as before: no Saturday hours. They are expecting to be open on Saturdays again this spring. Happy New Year! [Jack Ingram, NSA Curator] =========================== ******************************************************************* Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 "In God we trust, all others we monitor" ******************************************************************* 4516 From: Steve Uhrig Date: Sat Jan 12, 2002 0:13am Subject: Hi-res commercial satellite http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1755000/1755356. stm Worth a read. Impressive. Steve ******************************************************************* Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 "In God we trust, all others we monitor" ******************************************************************* 4517 From: Date: Sat Jan 12, 2002 5:23am Subject: Steve Uhrig Column Name. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- My suggestion is: Www.swssec.com Hardware Intel. Counter-intel. Q and A Hosted by Steve Uhrig -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.1 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com wlwEARECABwFAjxAHFwVHGRhZW1vbjdAaHVzaG1haWwuY29tAAoJEIqGlhRaN0MTjHQA oINlJfqqrFe36CY1SeUsn8A2pselAJ9hge7ce7XSqEyRjOsnabN9az382Q== =OlJH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 4518 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Sat Jan 12, 2002 11:34am Subject: How Many Dogs Does It Take HOW MANY DOGS DOES IT TAKE TO CHANGE A LIGHT BULB? Golden Retriever: The sun is shining, the day is young, we've got our whole lives ahead of us, and you're inside worrying about a stupid burned out bulb? Border Collie: Just one. And then I'll replace any wiring that's not up to code. Dachshund: You know I can't reach that stupid lamp! Rottweiler: Make me. Lab: Oh, me, me!!!! Pleeeeeeze let me change the light bulb! Can I? Can I? Huh? Huh? Huh? Can I? Malamute: Let the Border Collie do it. You can feed me while he's busy. Jack Russell Terrier: I'll just pop it in while I'm bouncing off the walls and furniture. Poodle: I'll just blow in the Border Collie's ear and he'll do it. By the time he finishes rewiring the house, my nails will be dry. Cocker Spaniel: Why change it? I can still pee on the carpet in the dark. Doberman Pinscher: While it's dark, I'm going to sleep on the couch. Boxer: Who cares? I can still play with my squeaky toys in the dark. Mastiff: Mastiffs are NOT afraid of the dark. Chihuahua: Yo quiero Taco Bulb. Irish Wolfhound: Can somebody else do it? I've got this hangover. Pointer: I see it, there it is, there it is, right there. Greyhound: It isn't moving. Who cares? Australian Shepherd: First, I'll put all the light bulbs in a little circle.... Old English Sheep Dog: Light bulb? I'm sorry, but I don't see a light bulb. Hound Dog: ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz Cairn Terrier: I'll bet there's a light bulb in a hole in the back yard. I can get it, I can get it. Bichon Frise: Check the pedigree: "...Non-working breed" -- Now, fluff my pillow. Cat: Dogs do not change light bulbs. People change light bulbs. So the question is: how long will it be before I can expect light? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and The Most Complete TSCM, Bug Sweep, Spy Hunting, and Counterintelligence Site on the Internet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. AtkinsonPhone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island GroupFax: 127 Eastern Avenue #291http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008mailto:jmatk@tscm.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. - George Orwell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4519 From: Miguel Puchol Date: Sat Jan 12, 2002 0:38pm Subject: Steve's column name Hi Steve, A few suggestions... "The Wired Guy" "1984" <= Maybe not all will get this one on the first issue... "Intel scene" All the best, Mike 4520 From: Jordan Ulery Date: Sat Jan 12, 2002 4:50pm Subject: Name Perhaps a little more formal under Order of the Court or Technical Surveillance Black Box [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 4521 From: Information Date: Sat Jan 12, 2002 2:18pm Subject: Re: Steve's column name How about Now Hear This! Regards, Bill Elliott, CII ELLIOTT & ASSOCIATES, Ltd. (GMT -7) http://www.prvt-eye.com http://www.cybercrimeinternational.com 2002 SUPER CONFERENCE - ROYAL SONESTA HOTEL - NEW ORLEANS, LA - AUGUST 20-24, 2002 -http://www.intersurf.com/~nosuper/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miguel Puchol" To: Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 11:38 AM Subject: [TSCM-L] Steve's column name 4522 From: Hawkspirit Date: Sat Jan 12, 2002 10:23pm Subject: Equipment Interesting equipment website http://www.fuhs.de/en/products/fsc3000.asp 4523 From: Hawkspirit Date: Sat Jan 12, 2002 11:37pm Subject: Teddy Cam Watch out for Teddy for he be watch'n you! http://www.lacasadelespia.com/detalle.asp?det=93 4524 From: Hawkspirit Date: Sat Jan 12, 2002 11:40pm Subject: Cellular Scramblers Anyone know how effective these scramblers are? CELLULAR SCRAMBLER SPECIFICATIONS Circuit size: 50 mm ´ 35 mm ´ 5 mm Audio range: 300 up to 3000 Hz Telephone lines: Cellular Consumption: 5 Vdc, 80 mA of the battery Stand-by consumption: 5 Vdc, 80 mA of the battery Selling Price: $5800 Prod. Code: HS-7000 Security level: III ( High security) Hop rate: up to 150 times per second Purchase only on request The cellular scrambler offers a universal security solution for conversations carried out in cellular phones. The cellular scrambler comes in a Star Tac. The circuit inside the cell phone provides nivel III voice security. Level III, that uses the same frequency alteration principle than levels I and III, provides the highest security level, hopping from one code to the other 150 times per second, 9000 per minute. This high frequency hop rate offers protectiona against virtually all determined listeners. Each scrambler is installed in the Star Tac and the scrambler will function only in the case that the two devices that are communicating have the same scrambling system, which is called "Point to Point?. The scrambler adds negligible weight and no size to the phone and is activated when the user enters a code on the phone's keypad. A red LED indicator confirms that communication is secure. The PX40's low power consumption maximizes talk time on each portable phone. This scrambling system is used by top entities and companies, where nowadays information is the most valuable asset. These cellular scramblers are sold only by pairs. Features and benefits: Portable Security - provides much needed security to highly accessible portable phone conversations. The activated module offers a defense system against a variety of interested parties. ? Low Power Requirements - offers little additional drain upon the portable phone's battery; thus, allowing the phone to perform and operate at its optimum level. ? Internally Embedded - allows sophisticated voice security to be added without cumbersome external devices. ? Optional Security Levels - offer varying levels of security to meet the specific privacy needs of a variety of end users. ? Keypad Activation - allows the portable phone user to activate security by simply entering a code on the phone's keypad. A red LED indicator confirms that communication is secure. ? Voice Quality - delivers recovered audio which is clear and natural sounding, while providing coded audio which is virtually indecipherable by unwanted listeners. This is the best scrambler offered in the market and its purchase is only on request.For further information, see our product in: http://www.lacasadelespia.com/detalle.asp?det=137 4525 From: Hawkspirit Date: Sat Jan 12, 2002 11:44pm Subject: CELLULAR DETECTOR Another interesting product MICRO-CELLULAR DETECTOR Detection range: 5 Mhz - 2.6 Ghz Energy supply: A23 / 12 volts alkaline battery Antenna: flexible gel Duration: 20 hrs Stand by Selling Price: $420 Prod. Code: HS-7020 The Micro- Detector is an electronic device capable of detecting risky 5 mhz to 2.5 ghz radio frequencies within reach ( hidden transmissions of your conversations) created by your cellular telephone. This unit can be carried on the body or placed on the desk, always near the cellular phone, so that if the cellular phone emits a hidden transmission of your conversation, when it is in stand-by mode ( when it should not transmit data), the Micro- Detector will adopt the RF emitted by the cellular phone and will automatically start to vibrate silently. This is an equipment that can detect and alert you about the most simple to the most sofisticated tappings of cellular telephones as intruder microphones. NOTE: When the batteries of cellular telephones are removed during meetings, this is no guarantee that the conversation that is taking place is not being transmitted to a third party, since with today?s technology it is very easy to place a microphone that transmitts at a distance of up to 500 m. With the Micro- Detector you are able to confirm, after you have removed the batteries, that no cellular phone is transmitting a confidential conversation to another place that is not within the environment where the meeting is taking place; if this is the case, the device will start to vibrate on the table alerting the user that no confidential issues should be discussed in that meeting.For further information, see our product in: http://www.lacasadelespia.com/detalle.asp?det=73 4526 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Sun Jan 13, 2002 0:33am Subject: Re: Cellular Scramblers Virtually worthless, and for all practical purposes a scam. The people trying to market the bloody thing don't seem to realize that cell phones do not hot, and voice level encryption does not result in frequency hopping. -jma At 9:40 PM -0800 1/12/02, Hawkspirit wrote: >Anyone know how effective these scramblers are? > >CELLULAR SCRAMBLER > > > >SPECIFICATIONS >Circuit size: 50 mm ´ 35 mm ´ 5 mm >Audio range: 300 up to 3000 Hz >Telephone lines: Cellular >Consumption: 5 Vdc, 80 mA of the battery >Stand-by consumption: 5 Vdc, 80 mA of the battery > >Selling Price: $5800 >Prod. Code: HS-7000 > > > >Security level: III ( High security) >Hop rate: up to 150 times per second > >Purchase only on request > >The cellular scrambler offers a universal security solution for >conversations carried out in cellular phones. The cellular scrambler comes >in a Star Tac. >The circuit inside the cell phone provides nivel III voice security. Level >III, that uses the same frequency alteration principle than levels I and >III, provides the highest security level, hopping from one code to the >other 150 times per second, 9000 per minute. This high frequency hop rate >offers protectiona against virtually all determined listeners. >Each scrambler is installed in the Star Tac and the scrambler will function >only in the case that the two devices that are communicating have the same >scrambling system, which is called "Point to Point?. The scrambler adds >negligible weight and no size to the phone and is activated when the user >enters a code on the phone's keypad. A red LED indicator confirms that >communication is secure. The PX40's low power consumption maximizes talk >time on each portable phone. >This scrambling system is used by top entities and companies, where >nowadays information is the most valuable asset. > >These cellular scramblers are sold only by pairs. > >Features and benefits: >Portable Security - provides much needed security to highly accessible >portable phone conversations. The activated module offers a defense system >against a variety of interested parties. >? Low Power Requirements - offers little additional drain upon the portable >phone's battery; thus, allowing the phone to perform and operate at its >optimum level. >? Internally Embedded - allows sophisticated voice security to be added >without cumbersome external devices. >? Optional Security Levels - offer varying levels of security to meet the >specific privacy needs of a variety of end users. >? Keypad Activation - allows the portable phone user to activate security >by simply entering a code on the phone's keypad. A red LED indicator >confirms that communication is secure. >? Voice Quality - delivers recovered audio which is clear and natural >sounding, while providing coded audio which is virtually indecipherable by >unwanted listeners. >This is the best scrambler offered in the market and its purchase is only >on request.For further information, see our product in: >http://www.lacasadelespia.com/detalle.asp?det=137 -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and The Most Complete TSCM, Bug Sweep, Spy Hunting, and Counterintelligence Site on the Internet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. AtkinsonPhone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island GroupFax: 127 Eastern Avenue #291http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008mailto:jmatk@tscm.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. - George Orwell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4527 From: Tom Lusk Date: Sat Jan 12, 2002 1:59pm Subject: RE: Creative assistance needed Mybe "Bugs and Thugs"? Cheers, Tom -----Original Message----- From: Steve Uhrig [mailto:steve@s...] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:21 PM To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com Subject: [TSCM-L] Creative assistance needed Hi all, I'm asking here because this list is now approximately 1200 members strong, and this is somewhat of an appropriate place to pose a request. Beginning in May, I will be publishing a monthly column in Police & Security News Magazine with questions and answers on surveillance and related technical investigation technology, to include TSCM. Readers of the magazine will ask questions of me by email, and I will answer several selected questions each month and print the questions and answers in the magazine. Here's what I need: > A name for the column ! Unfortunately I cannot solicit subscriptions to the magazine as it is controlled distribution to law enforcement only. Please feel free (per Jim, owner of this list) to post suggestions here to the list. That may encourage other suggestions and avoid redundancy. I'll select one or two of my favorites from those submitted here, and run them by the editor of the magazine. If your name is selected, I'll compensate you in some way via my used equipment page or something similar. The only one I've thought of so far, and I am not creative, is 'Everything you wanted to know about surveillance technology, but didn't know who to ask'. Feel free to reply to me directly if you do not want your name to appear on the list. Otherwise, please post your reply to the list. Note to do that, you can't merely reply to this message or your reply will come to me, not to the list (this measure was instituted for security reasons some time back). Address any suggestions to TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com. Picking names for products is one of the more difficult tasks in engineering. Same thing with newsletters and columns. I do not have a creative bone in my body. Can't draw stick figures. Thanks all. Steve ******************************************************************* Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 "In God we trust, all others we monitor" ******************************************************************* ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 4528 From: Miguel Puchol Date: Sun Jan 13, 2002 3:54am Subject: Re: Creative assistance needed Well, don't laught too hard but.... > "The Teachings of Obi Wan Uhrig" In reference to this: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/obiwan1.shtml Makes you wonder :-) Cheers, Mike 4529 From: Miguel Puchol Date: Sun Jan 13, 2002 4:05am Subject: Re: Cellular Scramblers Well, looks to me like an overpriced Transcrypt board, which true, does inversion scrambling with rapidly hopping patterns, which could be OK for your average listener - but don't bet your life on it. In any case, it is VERY expensive, the best Transcrypt board you can buy commercially will set you back less than $1000, and you'll need an end-user certificate to get it. I don't know the price of the DES board, but I don't imagine it running past the $1k mark too much. I like the "purchase on request" part, how could I purchase if it wasn't on request? They have mind readers that work over IP nets now? Ahem, just another spy shop.....same oppinion goes for your second message. For more info, http://www.transcryptsecure.com/products/lmr_security.html MHO, all the best, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hawkspirit" To: Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 6:40 AM Subject: [TSCM-L] Cellular Scramblers > Anyone know how effective these scramblers are? > > CELLULAR SCRAMBLER > > > > SPECIFICATIONS > Circuit size: 50 mm ´ 35 mm ´ 5 mm > Audio range: 300 up to 3000 Hz > Telephone lines: Cellular > Consumption: 5 Vdc, 80 mA of the battery > Stand-by consumption: 5 Vdc, 80 mA of the battery > > Selling Price: $5800 > Prod. Code: HS-7000 > > > > Security level: III ( High security) > Hop rate: up to 150 times per second > > Purchase only on request > > The cellular scrambler offers a universal security solution for > conversations carried out in cellular phones. The cellular scrambler comes > in a Star Tac. > The circuit inside the cell phone provides nivel III voice security. Level > III, that uses the same frequency alteration principle than levels I and > III, provides the highest security level, hopping from one code to the > other 150 times per second, 9000 per minute. This high frequency hop rate > offers protectiona against virtually all determined listeners. > Each scrambler is installed in the Star Tac and the scrambler will function > only in the case that the two devices that are communicating have the same > scrambling system, which is called "Point to Point?. The scrambler adds > negligible weight and no size to the phone and is activated when the user > enters a code on the phone's keypad. A red LED indicator confirms that > communication is secure. The PX40's low power consumption maximizes talk > time on each portable phone. > This scrambling system is used by top entities and companies, where > nowadays information is the most valuable asset. > > These cellular scramblers are sold only by pairs. > > Features and benefits: > Portable Security - provides much needed security to highly accessible > portable phone conversations. The activated module offers a defense system > against a variety of interested parties. > ? Low Power Requirements - offers little additional drain upon the portable > phone's battery; thus, allowing the phone to perform and operate at its > optimum level. > ? Internally Embedded - allows sophisticated voice security to be added > without cumbersome external devices. > ? Optional Security Levels - offer varying levels of security to meet the > specific privacy needs of a variety of end users. > ? Keypad Activation - allows the portable phone user to activate security > by simply entering a code on the phone's keypad. A red LED indicator > confirms that communication is secure. > ? Voice Quality - delivers recovered audio which is clear and natural > sounding, while providing coded audio which is virtually indecipherable by > unwanted listeners. > This is the best scrambler offered in the market and its purchase is only > on request.For further information, see our product in: > http://www.lacasadelespia.com/detalle.asp?det=137 > > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > 4530 From: Steve Uhrig Date: Sun Jan 13, 2002 10:34am Subject: Re: Cellular Scramblers Once upon a midnight dreary, Hawkspirit pondered, weak and weary: > Anyone know how effective these scramblers are? Will only work on analog. It is extremely difficult to get any sort of privacy beyond simple inversion working on cellular. Go to CDMA and you're safe from virtually anything not covered by a Title III court order served on the service provider. Steve ******************************************************************* Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 "In God we trust, all others we monitor" ******************************************************************* 4531 From: A Grudko Date: Sun Jan 13, 2002 3:02am Subject: Re: Cellular Scramblers - Original Message - >> Anyone know how effective these scramblers are? I don't know the product but I don't know of any space inside a Motorolla Star-Tac, never mind 50 mm x 35 mm x 5 mm. Perhaps the US model is different to ours. The terminology used sounds like techno-babble, but if fairness, this can happen innocently. I used to be the agent here for Cony and I termed their instruction manuals 'Janglish' - Japanese English, translated litterally from a dictionary. I re-wrote some of their manuals for them. I would expect a large company offering a serious product to have a decently worded technical discription. That's also a heck of a price to pay - especially if in fact all it does is light an LED up! Andy Grudko D.P.M., Grad I.S, (S.A.) - Grudko Associates - www.grudko.com , Est. 1981 International business intelligence and investigations - ICQ 146498943 Johannesburg (+27 11) 465 9673 - 465 1487 (Fax), Pretoria (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax) SACI, WAD, CALI, SAMLF, UKPIN, AFIO (OS), IWWA, PRETrust, AmChamCom When you need it done right - first time "Richard Milhouse Nixon was the first US president whose name contains all the letters from the word "criminal." The second? William Jefferson Clinton" 4532 From: A Grudko Date: Sun Jan 13, 2002 3:24am Subject: Re: Creative assistance needed - Original Message - > The only one I've thought of so far, and I am not creative, is > 'Everything you wanted to know about surveillance technology, > but didn't know who to ask'. Mmmm - doesn't really roll off the tongue... I've had a few articles published and non technical people might read past 'TSCM 101' - using a layman's term like 'bug' will attract readers. Some of the tiles I've used include: A Plague of Bugs Who's Bugging You? To Bug or Not To Bug? (feel free to use them) or how about: The Sweeper The Sweeper Speaks Bugland Wired The Receiver Detection and Deception Or a bit more off the wall: Bug Off! Sex, Lies and Audio Tape Where's Mike's Mike? Mikes, Cameras, Action! Andy Grudko D.P.M., Grad I.S, (S.A.) - Grudko Associates - www.grudko.com , Est. 1981 International business intelligence and investigations - ICQ 146498943 Johannesburg (+27 11) 465 9673 - 465 1487 (Fax), Pretoria (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax) SACI, WAD, CALI, SAMLF, UKPIN, AFIO (OS), IWWA, PRETrust, AmChamCom "Richard Milhouse Nixon was the first US president whose name contains all the letters from the word "criminal." The second? William Jefferson Clinton"