From: mooty Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 6:36am Subject: Re: "Sound of Voices" ?????? O there out there...one must know where to find "them" Wes Mooty 501-247-6405 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Grudko" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 6:21 AM Subject: RE: [TSCM-L] "Sound of Voices" ?????? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: LD C [mailto:ldc_esq@l...] > > Where does one find a remote "DNA Tracker"? > > I don't think there is such an item yet, except at the top of the > 'Technology Wish-List' of all the usual 3 letter agencies > > A Grudko > > > ---------- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.4 - Release Date: 2005/02/01 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > 10892 From: Tim Johnson Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 7:15am Subject: Re: opto interceptor Dave, I wish to beg your pardon. Nothing that serves the purpose of expediting a sweep is a toy. You have to make use of everything you have available when doing a sweep. Your toy may be the only thing that picks up a signal if your prime equipment happens to be placed in a location that just happens to be a "dead" spot for the signal generated by a covert transmitter. Tim -- Tim Johnson Technical Security Consultants Inc. PO Box 1295 Carrollton, GA 30112 770-836-4898 770-712-2164 Cell What you say in private is your business. Keeping it private is ours. Georgia License # PDC 002074 Technical Security Consultants Inc. MemberINTELNET Espionage Research Institute Association of Former Office of Special Investigations Special Agents-Technical Agent http://www.dbugman.com This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Neither this information block, the typed name of the sender, or anything else in this message is intended to constitute an electronic signature for purposes of the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act or the Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act (E-Sign) unless a specific statement to the contrary is included in this message. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10893 From: taylortscm@y... Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 11:35am Subject: Re: opto interceptor david: opto/interceptor is a nice little unit when connected to opto aps104 will give surprising results. dan taylor group delta wrote: hello to the group a friend of mine give me an optoelectronics interceptor to play with it during a sweep i was surprise about the possibilities not so bad to have a fast view of the spectrum this device is able to lock on the strongest signal between 30mhz to 2 ghz the audio is very good also but of course it is just a toy , not a professionnal model to sweep david from paris ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TSCM-L/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TSCM-L-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10894 From: kondrak Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 11:36am Subject: Re: opto interceptor Couldn't agree more....ANY thing that serves a purpose is a tool. Its just some tools have more utility than others... At 08:15 2/2/2005, you wrote: >Dave, I wish to beg your pardon. Nothing that serves the purpose of >expediting a sweep is a toy. You have to make use of everything you >have available when doing a sweep. Your toy may be the only thing >that picks up a signal if your prime equipment happens to be placed >in a location that just happens to be a "dead" spot for the signal >generated by a covert transmitter. > >Tim >-- > >Tim Johnson > >Technical Security Consultants Inc. >PO Box 1295 >Carrollton, GA 30112 >770-836-4898 >770-712-2164 Cell > >What you say in private is your business. Keeping it private is ours. > >Georgia License # PDC 002074 Technical Security Consultants Inc. >Member INTELNET > Espionage Research Institute > Association of Former Office of Special Investigations >Special Agents-Technical Agent >http://www.dbugman.com > >This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may >contain privileged confidential, or proprietary information that is >exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message >in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the >e-mail and destroy any printed copy. > >Neither this information block, the typed name of the sender, or >anything else in this message is intended to constitute an electronic >signature for purposes of the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act or >the Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act >(E-Sign) unless a specific statement to the contrary is included in >this message. > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. >=================================================== TSKS >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > 10895 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 0:15pm Subject: Re: "Breaking-In" to technical security One very good way to "cut your teeth" is to work for a company that runs cables in buildings, installs phone system, and data networks for 2-3 years. You need to rull several hundred thousand feet of cables yourself, program thousands of phones, and be able to eat, drink, and sleep data networks on the physical layer. You must be comfortable on a ladder, and know the difference between Plenum, Riser, and PVC jacketed cable, be able to punch 66, bix, 110, or related blocks, and now how to fire stop a cable. It is also important to learn how to lay up screw studs and how to stud-up a wall, how to properly hang rock, and how to how to sling drywall mug. You will also need to learn which side of a batt of insulation goes which way, and why the grain on a ceiling tile is so important. Big plus is you can work with the brotherhood (IBEW) and learn to wire a breaker panel, cut romex, and how to properly wire a dimmer switch or fluorescent light in a board room. Extra points if you learn to lay down carpet, and hone your painting and wallpaper hanging skills. After that work for a large multi-billion dollar company for 3-4 years maintaining their data and telecom systems and immersing yourself in the day-to-day problems and issues that corporate telcom folk deal with on a regular basis. Notice that I have not said anything about working in the security department, or working with a PI to learn TSCM. Start with an extremely strong technical background, fill in strong tradesmen skills, and get some exposure to corporate communications systems. A hard core TSCM professional spends more time at Home Depot, Graybar, and Lowes then that do the local SpyShop, Ham Radio Store, Computer Outlet, or Radio Shack. Often a good ladder and flashlight will reveal a bug or security problem that TSCM equipment will not detect... but if you do not know what to expect in a plenum or wall cavity then you will not know when something does not belong. Break into the construction and technical trades before you try to break into the TSCM business. -jma At 04:11 AM 2/1/2005, ratlater69 wrote: >So I've been thinking for a while about how one would "break in" to >the technical security business, with little or no directly relevant >experience. The obvious answer is military service, which is where I >suspect a substantial number of people "cut their teeth"; is this >consistent with the perception of most people, or do you expect to see >new people coming from the private sector? > > I personally have a fairly strong background in computer & network >security and physics, with a decent understanding of basic >electronics, and have always been interested in technical security but >have never quite been able to push through. I'm under the impression >that most people in the techsec sector share at least some of these >qualifications, though I'm unsure if that is completely accurate. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10896 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 0:21pm Subject: Sweep Needed in Granada Hills, CA If anybody on the list is interesting in doing a residential sweep in Granada Hills, California 91344 please let me know via a private message. The house is less than 3000 sq ft. -jma ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10897 From: A Grudko Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 2:13pm Subject: RE: "Breaking-In" to technical security -----Original Message----- From: joe joe [mailto:wiggyyy2000@y...] > PIs.. business is to investigate things like whos' cheating on who or nanny's which is where most of their business comes from, Dear joe joe wiggyyy2000 What do you base this assessment of PI's business on? " I say this because as I am sure you know many PI's pretend to do the work(mostly with sub standard equipment) and then place their own bugs to make themselves look better.." Is there a study this is based on? Some verifiable facts please. Andy Grudko (British), DPM, Grad IS (South Africa) MIS/Grudko Associates, Est. 1981. PSIRA reg. No. 8642 www.grudko.com , agrudko@i... Pretoria HO (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax) Branches: Sandton (+27 11) 465 9673 - 465 1487 (Fax) Johannesburg (+27 11) 781 7206 - 781 7207(Fax) Mid Rand (+27 11) 318 1451 - 318 6846(Fax) Cellular (+27) 82 778 6355 - ICQ 146498943 SACI(Pres) SASA, IPA, WAD, CALI, UKPIN, IWWA. "When you need it done right - first time" ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.4 - Release Date: 2005/02/01 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10898 From: savanted1© Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 1:41pm Subject: TSCM News Identity Theft, Net Scams Rose in '04-FTC According to figures released February 1, 2005 by the UK Office of Fair Trading (OFT), British consumers lose an estimated £1 billion per year on scams. The OFT has launched a month-long campaign warning consumers about the most common scams and educating them on how to protect themselves. One of the most common scams is so-called 419 Nigerian fraud, where consumers receive an e-mail seeking upfront cash to aid in releasing large amounts of cash, which the will be split with the victim. Christine Wade, director of consumer regulation enforcement at the OFT, said scammers are resourceful, enterprising, and manipulative, and damage legitimate businesses by using the same marketing routes. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/01/oft_targets_scammers ===================================================================== Phishing morphs into pharming A new form of Internet fraud, called pharming, is potentially more dangerous than phishing because it does not require users to respond to spam. The new form of attacks can also be executed over a broader front, possibly misdirecting all e-mail and web traffic away from its victims. Gerhard Eschelbeck, chief technology officer at security firm Qualys, says the recent ISP hijacking of Panix typifies the type of threat that may develop, and pharming is considered by some experts the next-generation version of phishing. Pharming is actually a new exploitation of existing browser vulnerabilities and loopholes, and could be addressed by improved browser security. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/31/pharming Savanted1® Mr. Garrett Hord __|__ -@--@--(_)--@--X-- savanted1@y... savanted1@h... savanted1@n... Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TICSAStudy Group email address: TICSAStudy@yahoogroups.com Innovations At The Speed Of A Thought® You Cannot Do Today's Work With Yesterday's Skills® It Is Wise To Educate A Child Than To Raise An Adult® ================================================== This electronic message contains information which may be privileged and/or confidential. The information is intended for use only by the individual(s) or entity named/indicated above. If you are not the identified/intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message/information is prohibited. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10899 From: Mike Di Feo Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 1:06pm Subject: RE: "Breaking-In" to technical security Very well said. TSCM is a technical field. Some people relate it to security. However, the sweep phase of it is extremely technical when done correctly. Through my last 10 years in the TSCM field, I have met many so called technicians previously employed for government that did not have a clue. I am sure that we have competent TSCM technicians at government level and I am positive that those technicians are highly trained electronic experts. Therefore, James is correct you must first learn the equipment, the tools to repair the equipment and place yourself in a situation where you can put to practice the theory. Just remember theory knowledge with out putting it to use is useless and practical experience without theory knowledge is also useless and sometimes dangerous. My background is commercial and non-government. However, I can use any spectrum analyzer, cellular diagnostic unit, scopes, DVM's and any other type equipment that may be needed to repair cellular phone two way radios and many more electronic components. Furthermore, I ran my own repair shop for 23 years. If you can accomplish that then TSCM is almost another repair application. Good luck in your endeavors. Mike Di Feo at Walsh Associate -----Original Message----- From: James M. Atkinson [mailto:jmatk@t...] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 10:15 AM To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] "Breaking-In" to technical security One very good way to "cut your teeth" is to work for a company that runs cables in buildings, installs phone system, and data networks for 2-3 years. You need to rull several hundred thousand feet of cables yourself, program thousands of phones, and be able to eat, drink, and sleep data networks on the physical layer. You must be comfortable on a ladder, and know the difference between Plenum, Riser, and PVC jacketed cable, be able to punch 66, bix, 110, or related blocks, and now how to fire stop a cable. It is also important to learn how to lay up screw studs and how to stud-up a wall, how to properly hang rock, and how to how to sling drywall mug. You will also need to learn which side of a batt of insulation goes which way, and why the grain on a ceiling tile is so important. Big plus is you can work with the brotherhood (IBEW) and learn to wire a breaker panel, cut romex, and how to properly wire a dimmer switch or fluorescent light in a board room. Extra points if you learn to lay down carpet, and hone your painting and wallpaper hanging skills. After that work for a large multi-billion dollar company for 3-4 years maintaining their data and telecom systems and immersing yourself in the day-to-day problems and issues that corporate telcom folk deal with on a regular basis. Notice that I have not said anything about working in the security department, or working with a PI to learn TSCM. Start with an extremely strong technical background, fill in strong tradesmen skills, and get some exposure to corporate communications systems. A hard core TSCM professional spends more time at Home Depot, Graybar, and Lowes then that do the local SpyShop, Ham Radio Store, Computer Outlet, or Radio Shack. Often a good ladder and flashlight will reveal a bug or security problem that TSCM equipment will not detect... but if you do not know what to expect in a plenum or wall cavity then you will not know when something does not belong. Break into the construction and technical trades before you try to break into the TSCM business. -jma At 04:11 AM 2/1/2005, ratlater69 wrote: >So I've been thinking for a while about how one would "break in" to >the technical security business, with little or no directly relevant >experience. The obvious answer is military service, which is where I >suspect a substantial number of people "cut their teeth"; is this >consistent with the perception of most people, or do you expect to see >new people coming from the private sector? > > I personally have a fairly strong background in computer & network >security and physics, with a decent understanding of basic >electronics, and have always been interested in technical security but >have never quite been able to push through. I'm under the impression >that most people in the techsec sector share at least some of these >qualifications, though I'm unsure if that is completely accurate. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS _____ Yahoo! Groups Links *To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TSCM-L/ *To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TSCM-L-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com *Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10900 From: Jeremy Funk Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 1:52pm Subject: RE: "Breaking-In" to technical security A quick comment here- I have found my experience in construction, cable running and network design invaluable in opening doors. These qualifications give you a real edge on the nickel-plated EEs running around out there. Don't get me wrong, you need the education, (working on more myself) but do what I did and get through school by slinging cable and building boxes. It's amazing how much it helps you "out there". My two cents. -Jeremy Funk -----Original Message----- From: James M. Atkinson [mailto:jmatk@t...] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:15 PM To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] "Breaking-In" to technical security One very good way to "cut your teeth" is to work for a company that runs cables in buildings, installs phone system, and data networks for 2-3 years. You need to rull several hundred thousand feet of cables yourself, program thousands of phones, and be able to eat, drink, and sleep data networks on the physical layer. You must be comfortable on a ladder, and know the difference between Plenum, Riser, and PVC jacketed cable, be able to punch 66, bix, 110, or related blocks, and now how to fire stop a cable. It is also important to learn how to lay up screw studs and how to stud-up a wall, how to properly hang rock, and how to how to sling drywall mug. You will also need to learn which side of a batt of insulation goes which way, and why the grain on a ceiling tile is so important. Big plus is you can work with the brotherhood (IBEW) and learn to wire a breaker panel, cut romex, and how to properly wire a dimmer switch or fluorescent light in a board room. Extra points if you learn to lay down carpet, and hone your painting and wallpaper hanging skills. After that work for a large multi-billion dollar company for 3-4 years maintaining their data and telecom systems and immersing yourself in the day-to-day problems and issues that corporate telcom folk deal with on a regular basis. Notice that I have not said anything about working in the security department, or working with a PI to learn TSCM. Start with an extremely strong technical background, fill in strong tradesmen skills, and get some exposure to corporate communications systems. A hard core TSCM professional spends more time at Home Depot, Graybar, and Lowes then that do the local SpyShop, Ham Radio Store, Computer Outlet, or Radio Shack. Often a good ladder and flashlight will reveal a bug or security problem that TSCM equipment will not detect... but if you do not know what to expect in a plenum or wall cavity then you will not know when something does not belong. Break into the construction and technical trades before you try to break into the TSCM business. -jma At 04:11 AM 2/1/2005, ratlater69 wrote: >So I've been thinking for a while about how one would "break in" to >the technical security business, with little or no directly relevant >experience. The obvious answer is military service, which is where I >suspect a substantial number of people "cut their teeth"; is this >consistent with the perception of most people, or do you expect to see >new people coming from the private sector? > > I personally have a fairly strong background in computer & network >security and physics, with a decent understanding of basic >electronics, and have always been interested in technical security but >have never quite been able to push through. I'm under the impression >that most people in the techsec sector share at least some of these >qualifications, though I'm unsure if that is completely accurate. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10901 From: wiggyyy2000 Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 2:49pm Subject: Re: "Breaking-In" to technical security ok first off go on many PI's websites and the first thing they go on is cheaters or annys..i am sure that is not all they are good for but that is where the majority of money comes from these days...as to the fact of many PI groups using sub standard equipment and they themselves planting their own bugs ,you are asking me to name names and I will NOT do that..it is a known fact that quite a few have that practice and I have personally heard a very reliable person that has been in the tscm feild tell me about a scam concerning a PI --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, "A Grudko" wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: joe joe [mailto:wiggyyy2000@y...] > > > PIs.. business is to investigate things like > whos' cheating on who or nanny's which is where most > of their business comes from, > > Dear joe joe wiggyyy2000 > > What do you base this assessment of PI's business on? > > " I say this because as I am sure you know many PI's > pretend to do the work(mostly with sub standard > equipment) and then place their own bugs to make > themselves look better.." > > Is there a study this is based on? > > Some verifiable facts please. > > Andy Grudko (British), DPM, Grad IS (South Africa) > MIS/Grudko Associates, Est. 1981. PSIRA reg. No. 8642 > www.grudko.com , agrudko@i... > Pretoria HO (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax) Branches: > Sandton (+27 11) 465 9673 - 465 1487 (Fax) > Johannesburg (+27 11) 781 7206 - 781 7207(Fax) > Mid Rand (+27 11) 318 1451 - 318 6846(Fax) > Cellular (+27) 82 778 6355 - ICQ 146498943 > SACI(Pres) SASA, IPA, WAD, CALI, UKPIN, IWWA. > "When you need it done right - first time" > > > > > > > > ---------- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.4 - Release Date: 2005/02/01 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10902 From: Tim Johnson Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 2:31pm Subject: Re: "Breaking-In" to technical security I didn't necessarily mean that you would learn from PI's. But, you do need a place to get started and not many of people who were from the government sector are going to bring you into their fold as they have a "standard set by the private sector" that they have to maintain. As a result, they will typically only consider someone from the government sector as an employee. They at least know what their training was and are able to qualify their qualifications and credibility. Starting off in the private sector.....I'd probably lean more toward trying to get hired into a major corporations security department and then let them know your desires to do TSCM work. I've trained a number of people for a number of private sector organizations over the years. In fact, some of the people trained have gone on in later years and entered the private sector on their own. As for the last part of your comment....it is sad, but true that there are some who prey on paranoia and will "find" devices they have hidden in order to generate repeat business. One that comes to mind is a company located in the southwest U. S. When I lived there, they had a reputation for finding the same type device on about 20 to 25 % of their sweeps. In real life the percentage is 1 to 2 % of the time. Tim -- Tim Johnson Technical Security Consultants Inc. PO Box 1295 Carrollton, GA 30112 770-836-4898 770-712-2164 Cell What you say in private is your business. Keeping it private is ours. Georgia License # PDC 002074 Technical Security Consultants Inc. MemberINTELNET Espionage Research Institute Association of Former Office of Special Investigations Special Agents-Technical Agent http://www.dbugman.com This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Neither this information block, the typed name of the sender, or anything else in this message is intended to constitute an electronic signature for purposes of the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act or the Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act (E-Sign) unless a specific statement to the contrary is included in this message. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10903 From: Tim Johnson Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 2:39pm Subject: Re: "Breaking-In" to technical security Inj my seminars and presentations I present the following as indicative of the minimum things a TSCM specialist needs to be aware of. And, it isn't learned in the government or private sector schools. Tim What must a TSCM specialist know to properly perform a sweep? Radio and Electronics Investigations Interrogations Locks Alarms Physical Security Systems Analysis Carpentry / Building construction and codes Electricity Telephones Cellular phones Threat assessment Threat evaluation Management and personnel Finance Salesmanship Computers Fax Video and emanations Photography Access Control Etc.. Why? To be able to effectively evaluate an area or facility and to make recommendations to provide the best and most economical means of protecting information and personnel. Performing a sweep is only one aspect of the service a client should receive. -- Tim Johnson Technical Security Consultants Inc. PO Box 1295 Carrollton, GA 30112 770-836-4898 770-712-2164 Cell What you say in private is your business. Keeping it private is ours. Georgia License # PDC 002074 Technical Security Consultants Inc. MemberINTELNET Espionage Research Institute Association of Former Office of Special Investigations Special Agents-Technical Agent http://www.dbugman.com This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Neither this information block, the typed name of the sender, or anything else in this message is intended to constitute an electronic signature for purposes of the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act or the Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act (E-Sign) unless a specific statement to the contrary is included in this message. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10904 From: joe joe Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 4:17pm Subject: Re: "Breaking-In" to technical security yes i agree with you on many of those aspects Tim..:) --- Tim Johnson wrote: > > Inj my seminars and presentations I present the > following as > indicative of the minimum things a TSCM specialist > needs to be aware > of. And, it isn't learned in the government or > private sector schools. > > Tim > > What must a TSCM specialist know to properly perform > a sweep? > > Radio and Electronics > Investigations > Interrogations > Locks > Alarms > Physical Security > Systems Analysis > Carpentry / Building construction and codes > Electricity > Telephones > Cellular phones > Threat assessment > Threat evaluation > Management and personnel > Finance > Salesmanship > Computers > Fax > Video and emanations > Photography > Access Control > Etc.. > > Why? > > To be able to effectively evaluate an area or > facility and to make > recommendations to provide the best and most > economical means of > protecting information and personnel. > > Performing a sweep is only one aspect of the service > a client should receive. > -- > > Tim Johnson > > Technical Security Consultants Inc. > PO Box 1295 > Carrollton, GA 30112 > 770-836-4898 > 770-712-2164 Cell > > What you say in private is your business. Keeping it > private is ours. > > Georgia License # PDC 002074 Technical Security > Consultants Inc. > MemberINTELNET > Espionage Research Institute > Association of Former Office of Special > Investigations > Special Agents-Technical Agent > http://www.dbugman.com > > This e-mail is intended for the use of the > addressee(s) only and may > contain privileged confidential, or proprietary > information that is > exempt from disclosure under law. If you have > received this message > in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, > then delete the > e-mail and destroy any printed copy. > > Neither this information block, the typed name of > the sender, or > anything else in this message is intended to > constitute an electronic > signature for purposes of the Uniform Electronic > Transactions Act or > the Electronic Signatures in Global and National > Commerce Act > (E-Sign) unless a specific statement to the contrary > is included in > this message. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail 10905 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 6:28pm Subject: Department of Homeland Security to unveil new procedures (AP) Washington, D.C. - Department of Homeland Security to unveil new procedures to protect action figures. Tuesday, February 2, 2005. Posted 5:31 PM EST (2231 GMT) In the wake of the kidnapping and threatened beheading by Islamic terrorists of an "action figure" named Cody, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has declassified and made public their plans for protecting other action figures and dolls. "What is more American than Barbie and Ken?" said I. Emma Mourahn, a DHS spokesperson. Ms. Mourahn revealed that DHS has already spent over $37 million on the protection of "miniaturized iconic assets" (MIA), including such ideas as the implantation of radio frequency ID chips, "dollometric" identification systems, tracking of plastics suppliers, and registration of all MIA designs with DHS icon specialists. "We are proposing $127 million for universities and other industry partners to research new ways to protect dolls and other miniature representations of America's heroes." When asked how they obtained the $127 million figure, Ms. Mourahn said, "We used Greenwald's First Law: 87.65% of all statistics are made up. It works quite well for us on Capitol Hill." Democratic congressperson Charles Rangle, who recently introduced a bill to create conscription (which was overwhelmingly defeated) said, "Okay, so the Bush administration is worried about Barbie and Ken. Everyone is. But what about African-American dolls? Have they even been considered?" The Reverend Jesse Jackson was not available for comment, but a spokesperson for him said, "Dr. Jackson considers this a very important issue and will soon have a statement about the discrimination in white-dominated society of non-white dolls, which historically have suffered the brunt of all doll hate crime, not to mention outright slavery. It is a travesty that in the twenty-first century dolls can be owned like animals." There was no reply from a PETA spokesperson, except to briefly opposed the exploitation of "animal figurines." President Bush was not available for comment, but a source inside the White House revealed that the president is "thinking about this quite a lot. It is constantly on his mind and not a day goes by when he doesn't not think about this issue. The fate of these dolls might bother him so much that he probably prays almost every day for a peaceful resolution to this problem while sort of balancing the need to protect U.S. civilian dolls from the forces of what might be characterized as evil, and by that he does not mean the Democratic party." Pressed further, the source mentioned a new faith-based initiative dating back to the Clinton administration that will ensure that dolls and other plasticized Americans will have a decent quality of life. "It's not fair to blame all this faith-based stuff on Bush," said the source. "It all started in the Clinton administration you know." Al Jazeera recently broadcast an al Quaida video that said, in part, "We view imperialist dog plastic fiends as legitimate targets for jihad. They have no souls. They are created by Jews exploiting oil stolen from the peaceful Islamic people who are having foul democracy forced upon them against their will by these Zionist pigs. They will die like dogs. Islam is a religion of peace, and we urge all Moslems to play with plastic geometric forms instead of these unholy miniature Zionist oppressor figures." The CIA has stated that they think it is 87.65% probable that the video is really from al Quaida, based upon voice analysis. Meanwhile, the TSA has announced that magnifying glasses will no longer be allowed as carry-on items on airliners. "We all know that a magnifying glass can be used to concentrate the rays of the sun and melt these poor little things in 87.65% of the simulated trials we ran," said a TSA insider on condition of anonymity. "It is important from the standpoint of professional goonery to not allow such potential terror weapons on civilian airplanes. We feel certain passengers will not mind giving up their eyeglasses. Besides, we have a study that shows that 87.65% of the 9/11 terrorists were readers of Tom Clancy novels, so this fits in nicely with our plans to ban reading at airports and on airplanes via confiscating books, newspapers, and pens and pencils. If anyone is bored they can watch or listen to the TSA approved entertainment we are developing in order to glamorize goonery as a career choice." The ACLU has filed suit in a federal court in Alexandria, Virginia to force DHS to reveal their plans, as well as to end all discrimination against the dolls. "It is wrong to even refer to these poor things as 'dolls' or 'action figures,'" said ACLU spokesperson K. Neejerque. "We prefer the term 'miniature-disabled' and we also strongly discourage their exploitation by the toy industry. Frankly, the toy industry should be more responsible and provide better role models than Barbie and Ken, not to mention scary military figures who merely incite violence in 87.65% of children according to a study we are currently making up." The Reverend Pat Robertson expressed his outrage at the ACLU, saying, "I am praying for their filthy atheistic souls since they are going to burn in Hell forever, but Jesus does love them. It is high time they realized that boys shouldn't play with dolls since that is currently the leading cause of boys choosing the homosexuality lifestyle. We are also against women playing with dolls, because it clearly says in the 10 Commandments that graven images are evil. This idolatrous industry must be subjected to a boycott immediately." When asked for an example, Reverend Robertson immediately referenced the 1970's doll, "Gay Bob" and said, "It is wrong to produce and let children play with miniature rubberized homo-replicas. We oppose this liberal pro-homosexual agenda." A press release from the American Medical Association stated, "This is absolutely deplorable on the part of the toy industry. It is well known that we have been trying to increase people's height for over 50 years in an attempt to cure obesity, ever since those height-weight charts you see in every doctor's office came out. Since we now know it is virtually impossible for most people to lose weight and keep it off, it is much better for 87.65% of people to merely increase their height by stretching while they keep their weight constant. But these dolls make being short fashionable, which we consider a contributing factor to a very serious health epidemic among those under 25. By the way, ignore all that stuff we used to say about eating high trans-fat margarine instead of butter, avoiding low-calorie eggs, eating diets high in carbohydrate, and so forth since we've changed out minds yet again. So we say to the terrorists: if you absolute must kill your victims, then do so by shooting or stabbing them since that is more healthy and also since glamorizing beheading provides unrealistic expectations for young people to be short. And don't eat fresh vegetables anymore since they cause tail cancer in genetically engineered mice." There was no immediate comment from the American Mannequin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10906 From: Thomas Shaddack Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 6:59pm Subject: 2.4 GHz detector ring http://neil.moon-beam.com/users/kris/index.htm No actual schematics nor microcode. :( Only a photograph. Uses a diode detector, and an Atmel microcontroller with integrated ADC (which detects a voltage raise on the detector output and starts flashing a LED). Very crude, very small. Could be made even smaller, using SMD parts. (A variant on this theme could work as a detector of RFID readers.) They are promising next versions that will identify more details about the access point, but I am skeptical here, as commercial electronics for receiving and analyzing the 802.11x packets themselves is too big for a ring. A bracelet or a wristwatch, maybe... 10907 From: SEAN WALSH Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 5:30pm Subject: Re: Sweep Needed in Granada Hills, CA I believe Granada Hills is in Southern, CA. I would suggest Rick Hoffman of Microsearch. He is located in Southern, CA. (Spectrum analyzers, lab standard test equipment, training and ethics.) He is located in Cypress, CA. 714-952-3812 Sean J. Walsh, C.P.I., C.C.V. Walsh & Associates (415)899-9660, Fax (415)898-5500 www.tscm.net PI 18345 10908 From: ratlater69 Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 7:10pm Subject: Re: "Breaking-In" to technical security Interesting to know- this makes alot of sense. Also makes the process seem somewhat more interesting. Thanks for the reply :) --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, "James M. Atkinson" wrote: > > One very good way to "cut your teeth" is to work for a company that runs > cables in buildings, installs phone system, and data networks for 2-3 > years. You need to rull several hundred thousand feet of cables yourself, > program thousands of phones, and be able to eat, drink, and sleep data > networks on the physical layer. You must be comfortable on a ladder, and > know the difference between Plenum, Riser, and PVC jacketed cable, be able > to punch 66, bix, 110, or related blocks, and now how to fire stop a cable. > > It is also important to learn how to lay up screw studs and how to stud-up > a wall, how to properly hang rock, and how to how to sling drywall mug. You > will also need to learn which side of a batt of insulation goes which way, > and why the grain on a ceiling tile is so important. Big plus is you can > work with the brotherhood (IBEW) and learn to wire a breaker panel, cut > romex, and how to properly wire a dimmer switch or fluorescent light in a > board room. Extra points if you learn to lay down carpet, and hone your > painting and wallpaper hanging skills. > > After that work for a large multi-billion dollar company for 3-4 years > maintaining their data and telecom systems and immersing yourself in the > day-to-day problems and issues that corporate telcom folk deal with on a > regular basis. > > Notice that I have not said anything about working in the security > department, or working with a PI to learn TSCM. > > Start with an extremely strong technical background, fill in strong > tradesmen skills, and get some exposure to corporate communications systems. > > A hard core TSCM professional spends more time at Home Depot, Graybar, and > Lowes then that do the local SpyShop, Ham Radio Store, Computer Outlet, or > Radio Shack. > > Often a good ladder and flashlight will reveal a bug or security problem > that TSCM equipment will not detect... but if you do not know what to > expect in a plenum or wall cavity then you will not know when something > does not belong. > > Break into the construction and technical trades before you try to break > into the TSCM business. > > -jma > > > > > At 04:11 AM 2/1/2005, ratlater69 wrote: > > >So I've been thinking for a while about how one would "break in" to > >the technical security business, with little or no directly relevant > >experience. The obvious answer is military service, which is where I > >suspect a substantial number of people "cut their teeth"; is this > >consistent with the perception of most people, or do you expect to see > >new people coming from the private sector? > > > > I personally have a fairly strong background in computer & network > >security and physics, with a decent understanding of basic > >electronics, and have always been interested in technical security but > >have never quite been able to push through. I'm under the impression > >that most people in the techsec sector share at least some of these > >qualifications, though I'm unsure if that is completely accurate. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 > Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 > 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ > Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and > Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10909 From: Michael Dever Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 8:35pm Subject: RF PREAMPLIFIERS Would anyone on the list care to recommend a manufacturer who can supply small battery operated (or battery capable) RF pre-amplifiers for the bands from say 10MHz up to say 6GHz? I want to attach them to or at least carry them with a handheld SA. Thanks in advance. Regards Mike Michael J. Dever CPP Dever Clark & Associates GPO Box 1163 Canberra ACT 2601 Australia Voice: +612 6254 5337 Email: dca@b... ************************************************************************ ***** This message is sent in strict confidence for the addressee only. It may contain legally privileged information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise the sender immediately of any error in transmission. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10910 From: mpaulsen6 Date: Wed Feb 2, 2005 11:21pm Subject: hardware logger not a felony for this kid from: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3020344 Feb. 2, 2005, 7:34AM Answers costly for high-tech cheater Teen charged with misdemeanor after his teacher's computer is rigged By ROBERT CROWE Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle A high school student flunked out in his scheme to steal test answers by plugging high-tech equipment into a teacher's computer, Fort Bend school officials said Tuesday. ADVERTISEMENT The 16-year-old sophomore at Clements High in Sugar Land was charged with a misdemeanor that could bring jail time and a stiff fine, authorities said. The boy admitted rigging a keystroke-recording device onto the computer after Fort Bend Independent School District police confronted him, said district spokeswoman Mary Ann Simpson. She said the scheme was uncovered after authorities learned that the boy had attempted to sell the answers. The device was installed for four days in the middle of November, He installed it when the teacher was not looking. Simpson said. In mid-December, school district police received a tip from students that the boy was trying to sell answers to final exams. "He was cooperative and admitted he had done this," Simpson said, adding that police confiscated the device, which plugged into a keyboard port in the back of a computer tower. Simpson said she did not know the subject of the class in which the device was used. Campus police referred the case to the Fort Bend County District Attorney's Office, which has charged the teen with breach of computer information, a Class B misdemeanor punishable by a fine of up to $2,000 and up to 180 days in jail. The student will spend the rest of the school year at an alternative campus. Had he been charged with a felony, he probably would have been expelled, Simpson said. The student was able to find test answers after he took the device off the teacher's computer, then plugged it into his own machine to search for key words, authorities said. Fort Bend ISD police sent out e-mails warning campus administrators and other school districts to beware of such schemes. "We want teachers to be familiar with what's hooked up to their computers," Simpson said. "Be aware that this could be done." Keystroke detectors, also called loggers, come in a variety of shapes and forms. The Fort Bend student used a device, about the size of a pen cap, that plugs into a keyboard cable, then into a computer keyboard port. The devices sell on the Internet for $70 to $150. robert.crowe@c... 10911 From: satcommunitfive Date: Thu Feb 3, 2005 0:12am Subject: Re: opto interceptor I have most of the opto gear and they are only really good for narrowband stuff, and really need an antenna to suit what freq your looking for. most 2.4Ghz video senders are invisible to them great for grabbing comms freqs at shows etc tho ! my 2c --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, kondrak wrote: > Couldn't agree more....ANY thing that serves a purpose is a tool. Its just > some tools have more utility than others... > > At 08:15 2/2/2005, you wrote: > > > >Dave, I wish to beg your pardon. Nothing that serves the purpose of > >expediting a sweep is a toy. You have to make use of everything you > >have available when doing a sweep. Your toy may be the only thing > >that picks up a signal if your prime equipment happens to be placed > >in a location that just happens to be a "dead" spot for the signal > >generated by a covert transmitter. > > > >Tim > >-- > > > >Tim Johnson > > > >Technical Security Consultants Inc. > >PO Box 1295 > >Carrollton, GA 30112 > >770-836-4898 > >770-712-2164 Cell > > > >What you say in private is your business. Keeping it private is ours. > > > >Georgia License # PDC 002074 Technical Security Consultants Inc. > >Member INTELNET > > Espionage Research Institute > > Association of Former Office of Special Investigations > >Special Agents-Technical Agent > >http://www.dbugman.com > > > >This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may > >contain privileged confidential, or proprietary information that is > >exempt from disclosure under law. 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Groups Links > > > > > > > > 10912 From: Michael Puchol Date: Thu Feb 3, 2005 2:06am Subject: Re: RF PREAMPLIFIERS Hi Michael, I've had good experiences with Down East Microwave (http://www.downeastmicrowave.com) who made a few preamps with external power feed (you can also get them coax fed) to my specs. Best regards, Mike Michael Dever wrote: > Would anyone on the list care to recommend a manufacturer who can > supply small battery operated (or battery capable) RF pre-amplifiers > for the bands from say 10MHz up to say 6GHz? > > I want to attach them to or at least carry them with a handheld SA. > > Thanks in advance. > > Regards > Mike > > Michael J. Dever CPP > Dever Clark & Associates > GPO Box 1163 > Canberra ACT 2601 > Australia > Voice: +612 6254 5337 > Email: dca@b... > ************************************************************************ > ***** > This message is sent in strict confidence for the addressee only. > It may contain legally privileged information. 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Groups Links Mike a few years back I had the same requirement.I eventually built my own using a fairly easily obtainable chip from Mini-Circuits a US company,but available in surface mount only so you would need a steady hand with the soldering iron.My needs were up to 6 Ghz but was able to settle for 3Ghz for this particular application.The final product by necessity utilised double sided copper board and and with all the grounding and bonding was a bit of a work of art it worked well and was rated kHz to 1 Gig with a 24 db gain [usable to 3 gig].If you want to build your own I am sure I can dig out all the details. Meanwhile a number of companies supply them ready made I noticed an Anritsu model on ebay recently and Watson make a fairly limited device to 1.2Ghz Regards Dave David McGauley TSCM [Technical Surveillance and Countermeasures] Electronic Surveillance and Sweep Specialist Electrical/Electronics Engineer ex Police Demtec House Ormskirk Lancs L390HF UK 01695558544 07866206112 demtec@a..._ www.demtec.co.uk_ (http://www.demtec.co.uk/) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10914 From: contranl Date: Thu Feb 3, 2005 7:50am Subject: Re: RF PREAMPLIFIERS . I also recommend Minicircuits http://www.minicircuits.com/ represented in Australia by: http://www.clarke.com.au/ They have all the right parts to make such filters lowpass,highpass,when combined they become bandpass or bandblocks. If you dont use additional amplifiers you may have a loss of 1~3dB's in the wanted range but without the need for power supply. One of the advantages of using filters at the input of receivers is that you could apply some extra amplification without overloading that receiver. so you may consider using some extra amplification. Minicircuits have some very tiny amplifiers they are what they call "unconditionally stable" wich means that they are not to sensitive to hobby-style manufacturing ...you don't need very complicated calculations or special equipment to make for example a 3 Ghz amplifier. Have a look at their very tiny amps (MAR/ERA)...all battery operatable. (3/5/7 Volts) Best of all they are VERY cheap. A good idea would be to have a universal filter-bank-box housing various filters for different frequencies. with the help of switches or small cables you could configure such a box to filter or block those ranges that you want. (allthough above 2 ghz it would be better to have separate filters) I have made some of these filter-boxes and could make more on demand. Tetrascanner 10915 From: nunimeyer Date: Thu Feb 3, 2005 9:53am Subject: oscor opc software....ughhhhh!! Ok guys I have kept my mouth shut about this for a while now and I just have to tell people the real deal about this. The sw is basically a database for keeping signals and traces you have collected on previous sweeps( when it doesn't crash your pc and lose everything anyway!)...thats where it ends!!! Don't believe their hype about the sw can do this and that..IT can NOT!..one thing it will do is crash your pc a few times and you gotta uninstall and reinstall it a few times,lol.. I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way about it, but I guess I am the first one to openly say it. When you prompt the sw to show diff between peak and freindly the sw just shows a blank screen about 7 out of 10 times..real reason is because the sw has major bugs..but if you call REI they will say its the pc's fault..hmm whatever you say..from what I hear the sw has bugs on their pc's as well so it basically boils down to REI shipping something that totally doesn't work...hey guys wake up and fix the problem!..BOTTOM LINE REI IS A GOOD COMPANY WITH SOME GOOD PRODUCTS BUT THEY DROPPED THE BALL ON THE OPC SW. 10916 From: Tim Johnson Date: Thu Feb 3, 2005 7:59am Subject: iPods and Ilisten Aren't those iPod's by Apple just about the neatest thing that's come along in years. Anywhere from 4 to multi bunch of gig of memory for storing thousands and thousands of your favorite tunes. It would take you from now till way past then to listen to all of them, even if you did nothing but listen full time, were you to max it out with tunes. I, personally, don't think I have thousands of favorite tunes, but how would I know unless I listened. Something that MIGHT be worth listening to would be what goes on in places I'm not normally privy to, such as rest rooms, break rooms, locker rooms, board rooms, offices, conference rooms or anywhere else I can't get to whenever i want to be there. How would I do that???? I'd probably buy an iPod and the ITalk attachment (for $39.95) and do the hide thingy. That would give you thousands of hours of conversation. They're small and powerful (and getting smaller and more powerful). Almost everyone has them. They're not questioned like cell phones, cameras and audio recorders are (after all, they are just playback units for music, aren't they?). You see them in offices, attached to speakers so that the occupant can listen, and listen, and listen while he/she works (I haven't seen them in meeting or board rooms yet, but it is just a matter of time before they replace the CD player that is already there. So, the next time you see one, think about where it is going or where it has been. Did I mention that with PodLock by Micromat, Inc. you can even create a secret drive that keeps sensitive data (surreptitious recordings, maybe?) away from prying eyes. And it is all right out in plain view. Just lay it on a desk or table, along with the headphones and almost no one is going to question it. Just something to think about. Tim Apologies for any cross postings. -- Tim Johnson Technical Security Consultants Inc. PO Box 1295 Carrollton, GA 30112 770-836-4898 770-712-2164 Cell What you say in private is your business. Keeping it private is ours. Georgia License # PDC 002074 Technical Security Consultants Inc. Member INTELNET Espionage Research Institute Association of Former Office of Special Investigations Special Agents-Technical Agent http://www.dbugman.com This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Neither this information block, the typed name of the sender, or anything else in this message is intended to constitute an electronic signature for purposes of the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act or the Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act (E-Sign) unless a specific statement to the contrary is included in this message. 10917 From: contranl Date: Thu Feb 3, 2005 11:31am Subject: Elektor this month features lots of wireless stuff. . Elektor (magazine) this month is a special on wireless they have articles on: RFID-detector, a complete circuit with discription how to build it,this one works on the most popular freq of 13.56 mhz Transmitter-modules that don't need batteries but use electricity from piezo-crystals or solar-panels. A (simple) frequency-spectrum chart with some details on who and what is where. Wireless connectivity (ism.wlan.wman.bluetooth etc) Construct a dipole antenna for DVBT (digital video at 800 mhz) Construct a wireless mic /module at ISM-band frequencies (860 mhz) Vhf antenna-amplifier (FM-broadcast band) Wifi-detectors (thos keyhangers that will detect 2.4 ghz data sigs) Not very shocking but not bad either ...for one if the biggest electronics magazines in the world ...never have they paid so much attention to wireless, i hope they will continue like this. Tetrascanner 10918 From: joe joe Date: Thu Feb 3, 2005 11:33am Subject: Re: oscor opc software....ughhhhh!! very well said, rei come on dudes fix your stuff, you guys have made some fine products so continue on --- nunimeyer wrote: > > > Ok guys I have kept my mouth shut about this for a > while now and I > just have to tell people the real deal about this. > The sw is > basically a database for keeping signals and traces > you have > collected on previous sweeps( when it doesn't crash > your pc and lose > everything anyway!)...thats where it ends!!! Don't > believe their > hype about the sw can do this and that..IT can > NOT!..one thing it > will do is crash your pc a few times and you gotta > uninstall and > reinstall it a few times,lol.. I am sure I am not > the only one who > feels this way about it, but I guess I am the first > one to openly > say it. When you prompt the sw to show diff between > peak and > freindly the sw just shows a blank screen about 7 > out of 10 > times..real reason is because the sw has major > bugs..but if you call > REI they will say its the pc's fault..hmm whatever > you say..from > what I hear the sw has bugs on their pc's as well so > it basically > boils down to REI shipping something that totally > doesn't work...hey > guys wake up and fix the problem!..BOTTOM LINE REI > IS A GOOD COMPANY > WITH SOME GOOD PRODUCTS BUT THEY DROPPED THE BALL ON > THE OPC SW. > > > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com 10919 From: Tim Johnson Date: Thu Feb 3, 2005 11:23am Subject: Bugging This is a one time post to all my lists, etc as there is some pretty interesting information pertaining to eavesdropping. If you'd like to be on the list permanently, let me know. Kiwi computer spy-gear may be used by Australian police Stuff.co.nz - New Zealand ... Australia has made changes to state and federal laws expanding covert police surveillance, particularly computer and electronic eavesdropping. ... Ex-FX Exec Sentenced in Wiretapping Case Multichannel News (subscription) - New York,NY,USA Former Fox Cable Networks Group publicity executive Randolph Steven Webster has been sentenced to three years of probation and ordered to pay $22,607 in ... Ex-Sonera CEO charged with bugging phones: report Investor's Business Daily (subscription) - USA By Madeleine Acey. LONDON (CBS.MW) - The former chief executive of Finnish telecoms carrier Sonera is to be charged with illegally ... House ethics panel to probe complaint about McDermott Seattle Times - Seattle,WA,USA ... against McDermott. Boehner sued McDermott, charging that the eight-term lawmaker had violated state and federal wiretapping laws. In ... Ambrosia's new WireTap Pro records any audio on a Mac Graphic Exchange News - Toronto,ON,Canada WireTap Pro, which features a simple, appliance-like user interface, allows users to record audio from any running application, as well as from any microphone ... Wire Tap, Ambrosia for sound Macworld UK - UK By Macworld staff. Ambrosia Software has released WireTap Pro, a well-featured solution that lets Mac users record audio from almost any source. ... Snoop Mommy is proud to spy on her kids Fort Worth Star Telegram (subscription) - Fort Worth,TX,USA ... And in this era where lax parenting is a common complaint, how can a parent govern a child when wiretap laws reign supreme and a court's reach creeps into the ... Mom's eavesdropping violated Privacy Act, state Supreme Court ... Seattle Times - Seattle,WA,USA The state Supreme Court has ruled that the Privacy Act prohibits a parent from eavesdropping on a child's phone conversations. The ... Sen. Roach seeks to shield parents from privacy rule King County Journal Newspapers - King County,WA,USA ... The ACLU is considering submitting legislation of its own, Hoenig said, ``to make clear parents shouldn't get in trouble for eavesdropping.''. ... Michigan wi-fi hacker jailed for nine years The Register - London,England,UK ... they modified a proprietary piece of software called "tcpcredit" that Lowe's uses to process credit card transactions, building in a virtual wiretap that would ... Families are easy prey for internet snoopers Telegraph.co.uk - London,England,UK ... Some families are so vulnerable to electronic eavesdropping that anyone parked in the street could read every e-mail sent or received. ... New bugging device found in UN offices CBC News - Canada The "sophisticated" bugging device, which experts believe was made in Russia or Eastern Europe about three or four years ago, was planted in a room next to a ... United Nations failed to find who planted listening device KTRE - Lufkin,TX,USA ... could've been overheard. They say top officials have security that includes electromagnetic waves to thwart eavesdropping systems. Mitterrand's phone bugging trial begins Washington Times - Washington,DC,USA Paris, France, Nov. 15 (UPI) -- France focused Monday on the opening of a trial of 12 of the late President Francois Mitterand's aides for phone-tapping. ... Man sues county over jail eavesdropping on talks with lawyer Access North Georgia - Gainesville,GA,USA ... filed suit Thursday against Athens-Clarke County and several county officials, claiming his constitutional rights were violated by eavesdropping on jailhouse ... Printed ads defend Kroll Miami Herald (subscription) - Miami,FL,USA ... Police investigating Kroll seized computers, documents and electronic eavesdropping equipment in five cities in raids they named ''Operation Jackal.'' Five ... -- Tim Johnson Technical Security Consultants Inc. PO Box 1295 Carrollton, GA 30112 770-836-4898 770-712-2164 Cell What you say in private is your business. Keeping it private is ours. Georgia License # PDC 002074 Technical Security Consultants Inc. MemberINTELNET Espionage Research Institute Association of Former Office of Special Investigations Special Agents-Technical Agent http://www.dbugman.com This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Neither this information block, the typed name of the sender, or anything else in this message is intended to constitute an electronic signature for purposes of the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act or the Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act (E-Sign) unless a specific statement to the contrary is included in this message. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 10920 From: Date: Thu Feb 3, 2005 2:40pm Subject: Re: oscor opc software....ughhhhh!! Genlemen, It seems to me that OSCOR software was developed for Windows 3.0 and was never redesigned since then. Apart from software some other features either do not work as claimed or useleless in today“s environment, e.g. AM video reception. Who ever saw a surveillance video running AM last 20 years? OSCOR cannot FM (I tried myself). Probably it was not a bad system for the 80s albeit not better than swiss made 1974 model XY-Mini-Spy-Detector (bench made but 100% based on top quality CEI and Watkins Johnson modules this system also used AF correlation method BEFORE REI revolutionary reinvented it). But irony is that for all practical purposes there is no competition to OSCOR today. A professional TSCM specialist does not need OSCOR: even a cheap hobby class receiver and an analog spectrum analyzer will help much more. But there a maybe a few professionals in this business, overwhelming majority are PIs (best case) or amateurs. Look at theit "credentials" on their websites: their "education" is limited to some 2hours to 2days course or apprenticeship. Some of them have B.Sc or evem M.Sc but not in Electronics or related fiels. They need OSCOR. And for this purpose it is good enough. And be I on REI board I would hesitate with redesign of the system: it could be a zero return investment. Regards, A.W. joe joe wrote: > > >very well said, rei come on dudes fix your stuff, you >guys have made some fine products so continue on >--- nunimeyer wrote: > >> >> >> Ok guys I have kept my mouth shut about this for a >> while now and I >> just have to tell people the real deal about this. >> The sw is >> basically a database for keeping signals and traces >> you have >> collected on previous sweeps( when it doesn't crash >> your pc and lose >> everything anyway!)...thats where it ends!!! Don't >> believe their >> hype about the sw can do this and that..IT can >> NOT!..one thing it >> will do is crash your pc a few times and you gotta >> uninstall and >> reinstall it a few times,lol.. I am sure I am not >> the only one who >> feels this way about it, but I guess I am the first >> one to openly >> say it. When you prompt the sw to show diff between >> peak and >> freindly the sw just shows a blank screen about 7 >> out of 10 >> times..real reason is because the sw has major >> bugs..but if you call >> REI they will say its the pc's fault..hmm whatever >> you say..from >> what I hear the sw has bugs on their pc's as well so >> it basically >> boils down to REI shipping something that totally >> doesn't work...hey >> guys wake up and fix the problem!..BOTTOM LINE REI >> IS A GOOD COMPANY >> WITH SOME GOOD PRODUCTS BUT THEY DROPPED THE BALL ON >> THE OPC SW. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? >http://my.yahoo.com > > > > > > >======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. >=================================================== TSKS >Yahoo! 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