From: A Grudko Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:38pm Subject: Re: Hmm..heads up Re:James - Original Message ----- From: kondrak > Ok, thanks for the update Matt. It didn't trigger either the .pdf reader > nor the copy of adobe I've got here, so it must of had errors. It opened here automatically OK although I had to click on one 'ignore' error button first. I read it but didn't bother to save it. People, like the sender, who write, 'I have the big bucks' and continue in broken English, generraly don't impress me, so I deleted it. Andy Grudko (British), Grad I.S, South Africa Registered as a security service provider by the Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority, registration number. 8642 www.grudko.com , andy@g... . Est. 1981. International investigations (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax). IPA, SACI, WAD, CALI, UKPIN, IWWA. When you need it done right - first time 7084 From: A Grudko Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:06pm Subject: Re: Alinco scanner radio - Original Message - > Recently I acquired an Alinco DJ-X2000 scanner radio, which features a "transweeper" function, also field strength meter and frequency counter. I've used Alinco transceivers for about 8 years and they are great as flexible, inexpensive radios which you will not loose sleep over when a staff member uses one to hammer nails into a wall... but as a countersurveillance tool, no. The X2000 special features you mention are a gimmick for non-TSCMers. Andy Grudko (British), Grad I.S, South Africa Registered as a security service provider by the Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority, registration number 8642 www.grudko.com , andy@g... . Est. 1981. International investigations (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax). IPA, SACI, WAD, CALI, UKPIN, IWWA. When you need it done right - first time 7085 From: gkeenan Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 11:26am Subject: military hotline numbers Click Here For Hepful Military Hotline Numbers Mon Mar 24, 3:32 PM ET Below are some helpful phone numbers for families with questions about their loved ones deployed overseas. a.. Army: (800) 833-6622 b.. Marine Corps: (800) 433-6868 c.. Navy: (800) 372-5463 d.. Air Force: (866) 299-0596 GPKeenan Co., Int'l Security Services 1005 Celia St. West Islip, NY 11795-2053 (631) 587-4020 (ph) (516) 768-9602 (cell) (530) 323-6832 (Jfax) gkeenan@s... secureops@e... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7086 From: kondrak Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:31pm Subject: speaking of.. Scanners, I've got need of a Bearcat/Uniden 760-xlt or 950xlt, in new condx. Will be a gift for a GF. Anyone got one around, and want to sell it, contact me off list. Thanks. 7087 From: kondrak Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:36pm Subject: Re: Re: Aide in Myanmar Finds Device At 06:28 3/25/03 +0200, you wrote: >Journalists love a story, even if it probably does not make sense. I distinctly identified a particular foul aroma around this story as well.... >And Mr Pinheiro is qualified to identify a wireless room bug? I wonder if he >was searched going in? > > > Before interviewing the prisoners, Pinheiro had assured each person he or >she > > could speak freely, the diplomat said. > >Real estate agents say " Position, position, position" >Politicians say "Agenda, agenda. agenda". 7088 From: Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:00am Subject: Steve, Violins, scanners etc. I have known Steve Uhrig for several years and tend to draw on his background and experiences in our field of endeavor (TSCM that is) Steve is one of the few, the very proud, and knows of what he speaks. I also know of Steve's ability to explain in plain language how our particular type of specialty operates. I have also draw on his knowledge of equipment used in the TSCM world. He not only offers sound advice he is an honest broker of it as well. Listen one and all for others may know not of what they speak. 7089 From: gkeenan Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:17am Subject: another test Sorry about this everyone, but I'm having problems with my yahoo account. They don't make anything simple. So I'm sending this to some of my groups to see what's going on. They say everything is back to normal - but you never know with those people. Jerry K. GPKeenan Co., Int'l Security Services 1005 Celia St. West Islip, NY 11795-2053 (631) 587-4020 (ph) (516) 768-9602 (cell) (530) 323-6832 (Jfax) gkeenan@s... secureops@e... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7090 From: gkeenan Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:33am Subject: apologies I'm really sorry about this everyone - but I can't seem to get this yahoo snafu sorted out. I'm hoping this will be the last test I have to send out. They say it's fixed. Jerry K GPKeenan Co., Int'l Security Services 1005 Celia St. West Islip, NY 11795-2053 (631) 587-4020 (ph) (516) 768-9602 (cell) (530) 323-6832 (Jfax) gkeenan@s... secureops@e... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7091 From: gkeenan Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 0:07pm Subject: One more time. Apparently everyone has been getting my posts on the lists, but I'm not getting anything at all back on them. So I'm going to give this another try. I did some resetting/editing so I hope this'll be the last time. I really appreciate your patience, everyone, and I apologize for this fiasco. Jerry K. GPKeenan Co., Int'l Security Services 1005 Celia St. West Islip, NY 11795-2053 (631) 587-4020 (ph) (516) 768-9602 (cell) (530) 323-6832 (Jfax) gkeenan@s... secureops@e... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7092 From: Charles P. Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:32pm Subject: Re: One more time. OK Jerry, We'll let it slide this time, but the next TSCM-L party is at your place. cp ----- Original Message ----- From: "gkeenan" To: ; <22SAS@yahoogroups.com>; ; <1811@yahoogroups.com>; ; ; Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:07 PM Subject: [TSCM-L] One more time. > > Apparently everyone has been getting my posts on the lists, but I'm not getting anything at all back on them. So I'm going to give this another try. I did some resetting/editing so I hope this'll be the last time. > > I really appreciate your patience, everyone, and I apologize for this fiasco. > > Jerry K. > > GPKeenan Co., Int'l Security Services > 1005 Celia St. > West Islip, NY 11795-2053 > (631) 587-4020 (ph) > (516) 768-9602 (cell) > (530) 323-6832 (Jfax) > gkeenan@s... > secureops@e... > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > 7093 From: gkeenan Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:41pm Subject: Re: One more time. Hi Charles, Thanks! I got your reply twice, so I'm going to assume that since you had both the TSCM and my email addresses that it came across both ways. I don't know what the deal is with this thing. The only yahoo groups that I'm getting any posts from are the two that I also happen to be co-moderator of! I'm getting nothing back from any of the others. And now it looks as if another list, that is not on yahoo, but a private server, is also not getting through. I'm getting it on my other email account, but not on this one. I'm about as confused as I ever hope to be. This had been going on for nearly 5 hours and it's frustrating as hell - since about 90% of my business comes from those lists! Again, thanks for the reply. Cheers! Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles P." To: ; "gkeenan" Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] One more time. > OK Jerry, > > We'll let it slide this time, but the next TSCM-L party is at your place. > > cp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gkeenan" > To: ; <22SAS@yahoogroups.com>; > ; <1811@yahoogroups.com>; > ; ; > > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:07 PM > Subject: [TSCM-L] One more time. > > > > > > Apparently everyone has been getting my posts on the lists, but I'm not > getting anything at all back on them. So I'm going to give this another try. > I did some resetting/editing so I hope this'll be the last time. > > > > I really appreciate your patience, everyone, and I apologize for this > fiasco. > > > > Jerry K. > > > > GPKeenan Co., Int'l Security Services > > 1005 Celia St. > > West Islip, NY 11795-2053 > > (631) 587-4020 (ph) > > (516) 768-9602 (cell) > > (530) 323-6832 (Jfax) > > gkeenan@s... > > secureops@e... > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > =================================================== TSKS > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > 7094 From: The Dog's Bollix Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 8:42pm Subject: Re: Re: Alinco scanner radio Steve's points are right on the money as always. I have a X2000 and I use it to tune into curious spikes on my spectrum analyzer. Sometimes I hook it to the output sometimes not. The transweeper function actually does a decent job of tracking down simple RF transmitters SO LONG AS you know what you are looking for. And if you can put up with that screeching noise for long enough to allow you to find a bug, then you'll have surely tipped off every listener within a 1/4 mile and probably have aherd of cats waiting for you outside. To depend on it for TSCM work is not advisable unless you like to impress with flashing lights and buzzers. As a scanner - it's great IMO. And for those of you that call Steve a "violin player" I'd challenge you to place your wits against his in this field any day. If you can call him down - why don't you try to catch him out - technically? He's probably forgotten more than many of us will ever learn about this field. NC --- Steve Uhrig wrote: > On 25 Mar 2003 at 3:40, Does it matter > wrote: > > > Oh no now Steve is a violin player!!!!! > > And Steve had mentioned: > > > > Remember there is a lot of noise level in any > group, even more so in > > > large ones. > > Case in point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com 7095 From: Bill Wagner Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 9:55pm Subject: Mason A2 I am new to the group and joined in hopes of finding someone who has schematics or service info for the Mason A2 radio set. I have a few page brocure but nothing better. I collect early samples of technology and have one of these and am very interested in getting it fully aligned. 7096 From: Steve Uhrig Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 6:45pm Subject: NATIA I'd like to speak to anyone going to NATIA this August in Tampa, especially as a vendor. Steve ******************************************************************* Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 "In God we trust, all others we monitor" ******************************************************************* 7097 From: Andre Holmes <1ach@g...> Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:41pm Subject: Fw: Re: Alinco scanner radio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Holmes" <1ach@G...> To: "The Dog's Bollix" Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] Re: Alinco scanner radio > Hello > > I have delt with Steve and talked and emailed him time and time over he has > been great as a person first, sweeper second and has always been correct. > > As a new comer to the field I am very confident in my abilities thanks > partially to talking with Steve. > > I am a competitor as well as Steve Please do not under estimate his > knowledge and ability. > > Respectfully Andre Holmes > Neptune Enterprise Security > USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Dog's Bollix" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:42 PM > Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] Re: Alinco scanner radio > > > > Steve's points are right on the money as always. > > > > I have a X2000 and I use it to tune into curious > > spikes on my spectrum analyzer. Sometimes I hook it to > > the output sometimes not. > > > > The transweeper function actually does a decent job of > > tracking down simple RF transmitters SO LONG AS you > > know what you are looking for. > > > > And if you can put up with that screeching noise for > > long enough to allow you to find a bug, then you'll > > have surely tipped off every listener within a 1/4 > > mile and probably have aherd of cats waiting for you > > outside. > > > > To depend on it for TSCM work is not advisable unless > > you like to impress with flashing lights and buzzers. > > > > As a scanner - it's great IMO. > > > > And for those of you that call Steve a "violin player" > > I'd challenge you to place your wits against his in > > this field any day. If you can call him down - why > > don't you try to catch him out - technically? He's > > probably forgotten more than many of us will ever > > learn about this field. > > > > NC > > > > --- Steve Uhrig wrote: > > > On 25 Mar 2003 at 3:40, Does it matter > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Oh no now Steve is a violin player!!!!! > > > > > > And Steve had mentioned: > > > > > > > > Remember there is a lot of noise level in any > > > group, even more so in > > > > > large ones. > > > > > > Case in point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! > > http://platinum.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > =================================================== TSKS > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > 7098 From: Matt Paulsen Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 1:50am Subject: tempest @ cryptome http://cryptome.org/etl90-3.pdf 7099 From: Matt Paulsen Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 1:49am Subject: U.S. Steps Up Secret Surveillance http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A16287-2003Mar23?language=printer washingtonpost.com U.S. Steps Up Secret Surveillance FBI, Justice Dept. Increase Use of Wiretaps, Records Searches By Dan Eggen and Robert O'Harrow Jr. Washington Post Staff Writers Monday, March 24, 2003; Page A01 Since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the Justice Department and FBI have dramatically increased the use of two little-known powers that allow authorities to tap telephones, seize bank and telephone records and obtain other information in counterterrorism investigations with no immediate court oversight, according to officials and newly disclosed documents. The FBI, for example, has issued scores of "national security letters" that require businesses to turn over electronic records about finances, telephone calls, e-mail and other personal information, according to officials and documents. The letters, a type of administrative subpoena, may be issued independently by FBI field offices and are not subject to judicial review unless a case comes to court, officials said. Attorney General John D. Ashcroft has also personally signed more than 170 "emergency foreign intelligence warrants," three times the number authorized in the preceding 23 years, according to recent congressional testimony. Federal law allows the attorney general to issue unilaterally these classified warrants for wiretaps and physical searches of suspected terrorists and other national security threats under certain circumstances. They can be enforced for 72 hours before they are subject to review and approval by the ultra-secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. Government officials describe both measures as crucial tools in the war on terrorism that allow authorities to act rapidly in the pursuit of potential threats without the delays that can result from seeking a judge's signature. Authorities also stress that the tactics are perfectly legal. But some civil liberties and privacy advocates say they are troubled by the increasing use of the tactics, primarily because there is little or no oversight by courts or other outside parties. In both cases, the target of the investigation never has to be informed that the government has obtained his personal records or put him under surveillance. "When this kind of power is used in the regular criminal justice system, there are some built-in checks and balances," said David Sobel, general counsel of the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), which is suing the Justice Department for information about its secretive anti-terrorism strategies. "The intelligence context provides no such protection. That's the main problem with these kinds of secretive procedures." The use of national security letters has been accelerated in part because Congress made it easier to use and apply them. The USA Patriot Act, a package of sweeping anti-terrorism legislation passed after the Sept. 11 attacks, loosened the standard for targeting individuals by national security letters and allowed FBI field offices, rather than a senior official at headquarters, to issue them, officials said. The records that can be obtained through the letters include telephone logs, e-mail logs, certain financial and bank records and credit reports, a Justice official said. The Patriot Act also significantly increased the amount of intelligence information that can be shared with criminal prosecutors and federal grand juries, giving authorities new powers in the war on terrorism. National security letters can be used as part of criminal investigations and preliminary inquiries involving terrorism and espionage, according to officials and internal FBI guidelines on the letters. According to documents given to EPIC and the American Civil Liberties Union as part of their lawsuit, the FBI has issued enough national security letters since October 2001 to fill more than five pages of logs. There is no way to determine exactly how many times the documents have been employed because the logs were almost entirely blacked out, according to a copy provided to The Washington Post by the ACLU. The Justice Department and FBI refuse to provide summary data about how often the letters are used. Several lawmakers have proposed legislation that would require the department to provide that kind of data. "In our view, the public is entitled to these statistics," said Jameel Jaffer, staff attorney for the ACLU's national legal department. "We have no idea how those are being used." FBI spokesman John Iannarelli said "it's safe to say that anybody who is going to conduct a terrorism investigation is probably going to use them at some point. . . . It's a way to expedite information, and there's nothing that needs expediting more than a terrorism investigation." But a November 2001 memorandum prepared by FBI attorneys warned that the letters "must be used judiciously" to avoid angering Congress, which will reconsider Patriot provisions in 2005. "The greater availability of NSLs does not mean they should be used in every case," the memo says. Beryl A. Howell, former general counsel to Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and a specialist in surveillance law, described national security letters as "an unchecked, secret power that makes it invisible to public scrutiny and difficult even for congressional oversight." Howell now is a managing director and general counsel at Stroz Friedberg LLC, a computer forensic firm in the District. Under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), the government has the power to obtain secret warrants for telephone wiretaps, electronic monitoring and physical searches in counterterrorism and espionage cases. The Justice Department has expanded its use of such warrants since a favorable FISA court ruling last year, which determined that the Patriot Act gave federal officials broad new authority to obtain them. The warrants, cloaked in secrecy and largely ignored by the public for years, have become a central issue in the ongoing debate over missteps before the Sept. 11 attacks. The FBI has come under sharp criticism from lawmakers who say FBI officials misread the FISA statute in the case of Zacarias Moussaoui, the alleged terror conspirator who was in custody before the attacks. No warrant was sought in the Moussaoui case, and his computer and other belongings were not searched until after the attacks. Even less well known are provisions that allow the attorney general to authorize these secret warrants on his own in emergency situations. The department then has 72 hours from the time a search or wiretap is launched to obtain approval from the FISA court, whose proceedings and findings are closed to the public. Officials said that Ashcroft can use his emergency power when he believes there is no time to wait for the FISA court to approve a warrant. There are no additional restrictions on emergency warrants, other than the rules that apply to all FISA applications, officials said. Ashcroft told lawmakers earlier this month that Justice made more than 1,000 applications for warrants to the secret court in 2002, including more than 170 in the emergency category. In the previous 23 years, only 47 emergency FISA warrants were issued. FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III, in similar testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee, said, "We can often establish electronic surveillance within hours of establishing probable cause that an individual is an appropriate FISA subject." "We have made full and very productive use of the emergency FISA process," Mueller said. Sobel and other civil liberties advocates say they are troubled by the aggressive use of emergency FISAs because it leaves the initial decision up to the attorney general and allows clandestine searches and surveillance for up to three days before any court review. Staff researcher Madonna Lebling contributed to this report. © 2003 The Washington Post Company 7100 From: Bill Wagner Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:31pm Subject: Mason radio I am new to the group and joined in hopes of finding someone who has schematics or service info for the Mason A2 radio set. I have a few page brocure but nothing better. I collect early samples of technology and have one of these and am very interested in getting it fully aligned. 7101 From: Andre Holmes <1ach@g...> Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 6:41pm Subject: Re: Mason radio Hello Bill Try recycled-equipment on ebay he sold a mini probe and may run across one or may provide the buyers email in hopes of getting a copy. Item number 1742430008 Mason Mini Probe Receiver 10 gig last contact on this is 6/25/2002 Good luck Andre Holmes Neptune Enterprise Security USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wagner" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:31 PM Subject: [TSCM-L] Mason radio > I am new to the group and joined in hopes of finding someone who has > schematics or service info for the Mason A2 radio set. I have a few > page brocure but nothing better. I collect early samples of technology > and have one of these and am very interested in getting it fully aligned. > > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > 7102 From: kondrak Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:22pm Subject: French espionage against our troop French espionage against our troops The French have faced some serious charges in the past few months. They've been called traitorous, lazy and odious. But now, it seems that those charges haven't gone nearly far enough: It appears that the French have engaged in espionage against the United States and coalition forces in the Middle East. The other day, I received a letter from a U.S. Air Force officer stationed on a base in Saudi Arabia. He wrote that coalition commanders expelled French soldiers from his base late last week. The French had apparently been caught hacking into the U.S. secret computer system. Their rooms had been evacuated, and British and American troops were allowed to move their own belongings into the plush surroundings the French had previously enjoyed. The officer reported that the information was 60-70 percent reliable, as a couple of semi-reliable sources had corroborated the story. This story has been kept under tight wrap by the governments involved -- perhaps because the information is false. But if the French troops were indeed removed from the base for spying on the U.S. military, relations between our countries will have reached a new low. This latest breach of international relations would be the logical culmination of a pattern of deceit and treachery. After stifling a United Nations vote on any resolution authorizing the use of force in Iraq, France has frustrated U.S. goals as much as humanly possible. On March 24, the French refused the United States' request that France expel Iraqi diplomats and freeze the French-held funds of the Saddam Hussein regime. French President Jacques Chirac pledged to oppose any U.S.-led effort to gain an "after-the-fact" U.N. resolution condoning our campaign to disarm Iraq. In a letter to fellow peacenik Pope John Paul II, Chirac reiterated his commitment to "defend the primacy of law, justice and dialogue between peoples." Chirac's commitment to law and justice ends where physical force begins; Chirac said that he "deeply (regrets) the start of armed operations." Despite France's opposition to the war, the French maintain that any post-war mess must be cleaned up with the help of the United Nations, aided by -- you guessed it -- France. The French government has also made untiring efforts to paint Saddam Hussein and his gang of brutal thugs as victims of imperialist aggression. Over the weekend, the Iraqi military allegedly murdered some American POWs and taped interrogations of several others, a few of whom were wounded at the time. Al-Jazeera, the Qatari television channel, broadcast the footage of the interrogations that was distributed by the Iraqi government. While the video made clear the brutality of the Iraqi regime, the French did not react with shock or horror at the prospect of American POWs being killed, wounded or forced to undergo severe humiliation in violation of the Geneva Convention. Instead, the Higher Audiovisual Council (CSA), the French broadcast watchdog, chastised Al-Jazeera head Michael Kik for putting the tape on television and revealing Iraqi war crimes. Now, the French military has allegedly been expelled from a coalition base in Saudi Arabia for spying on the uncultured Americans. Can the French sink any lower? The sad truth is that they can. Jacques Chirac's approval ratings are sky high; anything anti-American goes over like gangbusters with the French public. And that anti-American sentiment is likely to become more and more severe with the growth of the militant Muslim population in France. France currently has 5 million Muslims, totaling somewhere between 5 percent and 10 percent of its population. The highly polarized Muslim community has gained enormous prominence in France, especially because other ethnic groups are reproducing at relatively low rates while Muslims are having many children. At some point in the future, if demographic trends hold, France could become a majority Muslim state -- and a dangerous foe to the United States. The French government has nuclear weapons. What will happen if an extremist Muslim government rises to power in France, with control of full-fledged nuclear weapons? This is a problem that cannot be solved in the short term, with people like Jacques Chirac in charge of foreign policy. But over the long term, France must be given some sort of economic incentive or disincentive to disarm, before it is too late. If France is willing to spy on United States forces in the Persian Gulf now, can we expect any better if the electoral majority in France is militantly Islamist? ©2003 Creators Syndicate, Inc. a [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7103 From: A Grudko Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 5:02pm Subject: Re: French espionage against our troop - Original Message - >From: kondrak >To: >Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:22 AM >Subject: [TSCM-L] French espionage against our troop I don't think that this is an appropriate place for either pro or anti war propoganda. Andy Grudko (British), Grad I.S, South Africa Registered as a security service provider by the Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority, registration number 8642 www.grudko.com , andy@g... . Est. 1981. International investigations (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax). IPA, SACI, WAD, CALI, UKPIN, IWWA. When you need it done right - first time 7104 From: Ocean Group - MU TSD Date: Thu Mar 27, 2003 8:10pm Subject: http://www.moveon.org/technicaldifficulties/move_on4.swf Sorry folks...couldn't help my rebellious side....funny but with a message. 7105 From: Gil Zimmerman Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 5:12am Subject: RE: French espionage against our troop ...especially when there appears to be no factual basis for the message. regards, Gil Zimmerman, NJ/NY; ESI / AGER; gil@e... -----Original Message----- From: A Grudko [mailto:agrudko@i...] Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] French espionage against our troop I don't think that this is an appropriate place for either pro or anti war propoganda. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 3/25/2003 7106 From: kondrak Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 11:18am Subject: Re: French espionage against our troop >Since it regarded espinoge, I thought it topical. Propaganda is in the eye >of the beholder. > >I don't think that this is an appropriate place for either pro or anti war >propoganda. 7107 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 1:16pm Subject: Old Glory Old Glory I am the Flag of the United States of America. My name is Old Glory. I fly atop the world's tallest buildings. I stand watch in America's halls of justice. I fly majestically over institutions of learning. I stand guard with power in the world. Look up and see me. I stand for peace, honor, truth and justice. I stand for freedom. I am confident. I am arrogant. I am proud. When I am flown with my fellow banners, My head is a little higher, My colors a little truer. I bow to no one! I am recognized all over the world. I am worshipped - I am saluted. I am loved - I am revered. I am respected - and I am feared. I have fought in every battle of every war for more then 200 years. I was flown at Valley Forge, Gettysburg, Shiloh and Appomattox. I was there at San Juan Hill, the trenches of France, in the Argonne Forest, Anzio, Rome and the beaches of Normandy. Guam, Okinawa, Korea and KheSan, Saigon, Vietnam know me. I was there. I led my troops; I was dirty, battleworn and tired, But my soldiers cheered me and I was proud. I have been burned, torn and trampled on the streets of countries I have helped set free. It does not hurt for I am invincible. I have been soiled upon, burned, torn and trampled in the streets of my country. And when it's done by those Whom I've served in battle - it hurts. But I shall overcome - for I am strong. I have slipped the bonds of Earth and stood watch over the uncharted frontiers of space from my vantage point on the moon. I have borne silent witness to all of America's finest hours. But my finest hours are yet to come. When I am torn into strips and used as bandages for my wounded comrades on the battlefield, When I am flown at half-mast to honor my soldier, Or when I lie in the trembling arms of a grieving parent at the grave of their fallen son or daughter, I am proud. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and The Most Complete TSCM, Bug Sweep, Spy Hunting, and Counterintelligence Site on the Internet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Ph: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island GroupFax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008mailto:jmatk@t... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7108 From: Paul A. Gerlich Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 8:01am Subject: Hi If anybody needs Investigations done in the Czech or Slovak Republics then let me know. I enjoy the group Paul --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7109 From: Jason Dibley Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:25am Subject: Mason A-3 Radio Reciever I have a Mason A-3 Radio reciever with spectrum display. I only have the operators manual, no service or schematics. if this is any help. Cheers Jason Miles Dibley QCC Interscan Ltd 7110 From: Robin Hunter Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 8:17am Subject: Ocean Group I can only presume you are neither British or American and have no loved ones involved in the current Iraq Campaign. However, being as this is a group where the membership is predominantly American, many ex-military, I find these sort of postings neither amusing nor relevant. If memory serves me well you are an Irish Company, you might do well to remember the words of a fellow Irishman, Edmond Burke "All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing". regards from Scotland, proud to be a member of the coalition/allies. ROBIN HUNTER AEGIS INTELLIGENCE LIMITED "KNOWLEDGE IS POWER" Member of EPIC (www.epic-uk.com) tel. 0131 312 8480 fax. 087 0132 8085 mobile. 07790900005 email. enquiries@a... www.aegisintelligence.co.uk Standby Member of Missingkin.com www.missingkin.com This message and any attachments are confidential and strictly for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivery to the intended recipient, be aware that you have received this message in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7111 From: gkeenan Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 3:04pm Subject: Re: Ocean Group Well said Robin! Cheers! Jerry Keenan USN, Retired (wife is also USN Reserve, Retired) ----- Original Message ----- From: Robin Hunter To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:17 AM Subject: [TSCM-L] Ocean Group I can only presume you are neither British or American and have no loved ones involved in the current Iraq Campaign. However, being as this is a group where the membership is predominantly American, many ex-military, I find these sort of postings neither amusing nor relevant. If memory serves me well you are an Irish Company, you might do well to remember the words of a fellow Irishman, Edmond Burke "All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing". regards from Scotland, proud to be a member of the coalition/allies. ROBIN HUNTER AEGIS INTELLIGENCE LIMITED "KNOWLEDGE IS POWER" Member of EPIC (www.epic-uk.com) tel. 0131 312 8480 fax. 087 0132 8085 mobile. 07790900005 email. enquiries@a... www.aegisintelligence.co.uk Standby Member of Missingkin.com www.missingkin.com This message and any attachments are confidential and strictly for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivery to the intended recipient, be aware that you have received this message in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7112 From: Gregory Horton Date: Fri Mar 28, 2003 4:18pm Subject: www.moveon What was funny about this odious website? Let's get back on track and stop the b.s. Greg Horton