From: human being Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 3:56pm Subject: Re: New security device one question: from its description it is unclear if it shreds printed documents _after they've been printed, or as it seems to read to me: that it shreds an immediately printed document, without ever leaving the machine (that is: a computer print-out one does not see, but that gets shredded). thus: is this is joke? (it appears to say 'hp' too, on the label, but is branded otherwise) brian On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 11:28 AM, Steve Uhrig wrote: > For those who have clients handling sensitive data, the following > product may be useful to them: > > http://tinyurl.com/8loe(URL shortened for convenience). > > It is a combination color laser printer and shredder. Like the other > multifunction devices (printer, fax, copier, scanner), this unit > combines several necessary functions into one. > > It may be the closest we'll get to the ultimate data security device > for some time. > > Steve > > > ******************************************************************* > Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) > Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip > mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com > tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 > "In God we trust, all others we monitor" > ******************************************************************* 7144 From: A Grudko Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 7:41am Subject: Re: Useful conversion chart - Original Message - From: Steve Uhrig > A way for us to convert from cycles per second to Hertz. > http://brainerdham.org/Tips/CPS_to_Hz_conversion.html > May want to print or bookmark. Thanks Steve, but Hertz have let us down here. They claim to be number one but our three cellphone companies have been offering 'per second' services for over a year. That being said, I don't see why anyone would want to rent a unicycle, bicycle or tricycle outside of NYC or Venice Beach anyway. Loof Lirpaon 7145 From: Steve Uhrig Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 7:38pm Subject: RE: Useful conversion chart On 1 Apr 2003 at 16:51, Robert Dyk wrote: > Been looking for this for years, my slide rule is almost worn out > doing this conversion manually... Yeah, My $2 Pickett bamboo slide rule from college is nearly gone too. When my dad dies, I inherit his aluminum Pickett. I to this day keep a circular slide rule in my truck for calculating gas mileage. My $2 Pickett does cubes and cube roots. I've never seen a calculator which does that. > BTW has anyone seen something similar to convert VA to Watts? It's not a direct conversion unless the load is purely resistive. Add any reactance and you get into Power Factor. Look it up. Power factor of 1 is pure resistive load. Any reactance lowers the power factor below 1, and you multiply by that fraction to get the true rating. A typical example would be a PF of 0.7 for something like a refrigerator. It annoys me that UPS systems are rated in VA rather than watts. I suppose technically it's more precise, but I believe it is more an advertising ploy than anything else. My 2200 VA UPS on the phone system here, video, alarms, network hub, etc. is rated at 1600 watts or 2200 VA. I guess they pick some arbitrary figure for power factor. Steve ******************************************************************* Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 "In God we trust, all others we monitor" ******************************************************************* 7146 From: A Grudko Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 8:28am Subject: Re: legal question - Original Message - From: Val - in an unspecified country. Maybe you are in Iraq? > if a bug sweep turns up evidence > of police surveillance How would you know it's police surveillance? Is there a sticker on the bug that says "Disneyland Police Department"? > Does the sweep company have to notify the > police that they are telling > their client that they have discovered > their bugs, cleaned/removed them? > is it legal to remove police bugs/ > surveillance cams? I've seen this discussion before. Here in SA, if there is a legal LEO surveillance operation in situ and you touch them or talk about them you will be criminally prosicuted - jail time. In my contracts/reports I make it clear that I will NOT report on LEO surveillance but in practice, once you have discovered that device, do you have the connections to ID it? A difficult call. Andy Grudko (British), Grad I.S, South Africa Registered as a security service provider by the Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority, registration number. 8642 www.grudko.com , andy@g... . Est. 1981. International investigations (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax). IPA, SACI, WAD, CALI, UKPIN, IWWA. When you need it done right - first time 7147 From: Steve Uhrig Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 8:25pm Subject: Re: Useful conversion chart On 1 Apr 2003 at 15:41, A Grudko wrote: > - Original Message - > From: Steve Uhrig > > A way for us to convert from cycles per second to Hertz. > > http://brainerdham.org/Tips/CPS_to_Hz_conversion.html > > May want to print or bookmark. Andy sez: > Thanks Steve, but Hertz have let us down here. They claim to be number > one but our three cellphone companies have been offering 'per second' > services for over a year. Good one Andy. For the record: Frequency is measured in cycles. Not bushels, cubits or rods. Hertz rents cars. And any frequency below 50 megacycles is useful only for audio or I.F., but that's a different conversation. Steve 7148 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 10:22pm Subject: Re: *** Saddam and his 2 Sons Captured *** At 2:10 PM -0500 4/1/03, James M. Atkinson wrote: >http://www.debka.com/ > >Last Updated on April 1, 2003, 12:49 PM (GMT+02:00) > >Saddam and his 2 Sons Captured while fleeing Baghdad > >Sources with American troops in Iraq confirm that Saddam, and his two >sons were just taken into custody 150 miles outside the western city >of Ar Ramadi. They were discovered when a huge convoy of trucks >headed for the Syrian border was stopped by U.S. Force after a brief >fire-fight. Saddam and his sons were found in an automobile moving >with the convoy, and according to sources all three were dressed in >women's clothing. > >More to follow. Happy April Fools Day -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and The Most Complete TSCM, Bug Sweep, Spy Hunting, and Counterintelligence Site on the Internet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Ph: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island GroupFax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008mailto:jmatk@t... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7149 From: Andre Holmes <1ach@g...> Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 7:33am Subject: Re: legal question ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:33 AM Subject: [TSCM-L] legal question > > if a bug sweep turns up evidence > of police surveillance, does the > sweep company have to notify the > police that they are telling > their client that they have discovered > their bugs, cleaned/removed them? ==== I would by all means tell the client of the find it would be fulfilling your obilgation. ===== If you should see that the device is being monitored by the Police then you should not touch the device if it is located outside of the clients personal property in my opinion. ===== There remains at issue is the device there as a result of Court order meaning that a felony has been commited by your client on the flip side with out a Court order the client has a legal right to argue invasion of privacy, and possibility of illegal evidence gathering against him/her so its imperative that the defence attorney request discovery of a court order. =====If a device is found possibly installed by the Police and there is evidence of there presence then the sweep team should ducument all activity around the location of the sweep. ===== I have rolled up on a Police covert operation and I had with me a Icom R2 in full scan. ===== The Icom R2 locked on 434 MHz with 5 KHz spacing, I was approx 400 ft from the target area in a vehicle. ===== I noticed that they were using a 434 MHz wireless camera with the undercover agent in a lighted area to compensate for lux. 40 ft away was the recording team, it was great to see it all in real time and pick off the wireless camera at the same time so if you are within the radius of a real bug you should have no problem locking on the signal. ------- The Icom R2 sqwilled big time. ==== My experience =====Andre Holmes Neptune Enterprise Security USA > is it legal to remove police bugs/ > surveillance cams? > > i assume the sweep company is allowed to reveal > police bug/cam findings to their > client, right? > > thanks! val > > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > 7150 From: Andre Holmes <1ach@g...> Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 7:58am Subject: Fw: legal question ----- Original Message ----- From: Andre Holmes To: jw mooty Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] legal question Hello JW Try http://www.aesham.com I have both full and cell blocked the cell blocked is better. Andre Holmes Neptune Enterprise Security USA ----- Original Message ----- From: jw mooty To: Andre Holmes Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] legal question where mite i buy a The Icom R2 ... wes mooty 501-617-4103 ----- Original Message ----- From: Andre Holmes To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] legal question ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:33 AM Subject: [TSCM-L] legal question > > if a bug sweep turns up evidence > of police surveillance, does the > sweep company have to notify the > police that they are telling > their client that they have discovered > their bugs, cleaned/removed them? ==== I would by all means tell the client of the find it would be fulfilling your obilgation. ===== If you should see that the device is being monitored by the Police then you should not touch the device if it is located outside of the clients personal property in my opinion. ===== There remains at issue is the device there as a result of Court order meaning that a felony has been commited by your client on the flip side with out a Court order the client has a legal right to argue invasion of privacy, and possibility of illegal evidence gathering against him/her so its imperative that the defence attorney request discovery of a court order. =====If a device is found possibly installed by the Police and there is evidence of there presence then the sweep team should ducument all activity around the location of the sweep. ===== I have rolled up on a Police covert operation and I had with me a Icom R2 in full scan. ===== The Icom R2 locked on 434 MHz with 5 KHz spacing, I was approx 400 ft from the target area in a vehicle. ===== I noticed that they were using a 434 MHz wireless camera with the undercover agent in a lighted area to compensate for lux. 40 ft away was the recording team, it was great to see it all in real time and pick off the wireless camera at the same time so if you are within the radius of a real bug you should have no problem locking on the signal. ------- The Icom R2 sqwilled big time. ==== My experience =====Andre Holmes Neptune Enterprise Security USA > is it legal to remove police bugs/ > surveillance cams? > > i assume the sweep company is allowed to reveal > police bug/cam findings to their > client, right? > > thanks! val > > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > > Your use of Yahoo! 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7151 From: Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:15pm Subject: RE Useful conversion chart From Dave UK If you are talking DC then just multiply [volts x Amps] I you are talking AC and its an inductive load i.e. a motor rather than filament light then use Volts x Amps x Cosine i.e. the efficiency of the circuit, usually assumed to be 0.8 which means for an inductive circuit this would be 80% efficient against a lighting load Regards Dave TSCM [Technical Surveillance and Countermeasures] David McGauley Demtec Electronic Surveillance and Counter Measures Specialist Electrical/Electronics Engineer ex Police Demtec House Ormskirk Lancs L39 0HF UK 01695 558544 07866206112 demtec@a... The manufacture and installation of custom made covert electronic audio and video devices Professional physical and electronic counter measures [sweep] services. Note: any fellow UKPIN members welcome to call in to discuss applications. Workshop located alongside the M58 junc 3 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7152 From: Craig Meldrum Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 7:06pm Subject: Old TSCM Equipment I have the following gear for sale ISA Boomerang 2 NLJD ISA ETA-3 Telephone Analyser ISA ECR-1 Spectrum Analyser None of it is going and is not in particularly good condition but it may be useful for parts if you have similar equipment. Please contact me directly if interested. Craig =============================== Craig Meldrum, Managing Director Communications Security Ltd PO Box 8314, Symonds St Auckland, New Zealand Ph: 64-9-3093386 Fax: 64-9-3021148 =============================== 7153 From: Steve Uhrig Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 11:46am Subject: Re: legal question On 2 Apr 2003 at 8:33, Andre Holmes wrote: > ===== I have rolled up on a Police covert operation and I had with me > a Icom R2 in full scan. > ===== The Icom R2 locked on 434 MHz with 5 KHz spacing, I was approx > 400 ft from the target area in a vehicle. > ===== I noticed that they were using a 434 MHz wireless camera > with the undercover agent in a lighted area to compensate for lux. 40 > ft away was the recording team, it was great to see it all in real > time and pick off the wireless camera at the same time so if you are > within the radius of a real bug you should have no problem locking on > the signal. Well, Andre, you stumbled onto an illegal surveillance operation. In the U.S., 434 megacycles is ILLEGAL to use for surveillance. That frequency is an amateur radio (ham radio) frequency, legal ONLY for hobby operation. No local, state or federal agency can use it for surveillance. Federal agencies MUST get an IRAC coordination to use anything other than frequencies licensed to them. IRAC *will not* coordinate any amateur frequencies for law enforcement surveillance. So, whomever the LE agency was surveilling, their evidence is no good because it was gathered illegally. If things ever go to court, and the defense attorney is sharp enough, that evidence and anything subsequent will be thrown out. Doesn't matter that the spy shops sell stuff there. It's cheap and easy to relabel inexpensive ham radio equipment and sell it illegally at inflated prices to naive agencies. To use anything on amateur frequencies, you must have a ham radio license of the proper class for that frequency, be engaged in two way communication, identify with your ham callsign every ten minutes, and commercial uses are forbidden. It is impossible for a law enforcement agency to meet these criteria in surveillance. There is an exception for 434 and other frequencies to be used for low power data transmissions, like car alarm remote controls, but the field strength limits restrict range to a very short distance. Effective power out for a legal data device on 434 is less than one milliwatt, although it is not measured that way. And that is for data only, not video or voice or anything. Another problem with using amateur frequecies is that many hams spend all their waking hours listening for weak signals all around the bands. The probability for intercept is very high. And, many amateur frequencies are used as inputs to repeaters. 434 megacycles is the input to one of the amateur repeaters in the LA basin. Transmit there and you'll be sharing your signals with thousands of hobbyists over several hundred square miles. It's happened, and the hams have had to DF 'surveillance' transmitters used to monitor a parking lot. In two different cases I've had, one LE agency using spy shop stuff got into the TV system in a hotel where they were working, and anyone on the proper channel in any hotel room could watch the surveillance in another room in the hotel. In another, at El Dorado airport in Bogota, the military was using some wireless video purchased from a spy shop and got into the video system of the entire airport. Their surveillance was seen on many many video monitors throughout the airport, for the few minutes before they discovered it and shut it down. With equipment most of us would have, it would be extremely difficult to intercept a properly done LE video surveillance. Virtually all of it is at microwave, you need to be in the path or very close, and more and more of it is being encrypted. So, in a different way, you uncovered an illegal surveillance. Steve ******************************************************************* Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 "In God we trust, all others we monitor" ******************************************************************* 7154 From: A Grudko Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 0:25am Subject: Re: legal question Original Message - From: Steve Uhrig > In the U.S., 434 megacycles is ILLEGAL to use for surveillance. That frequency is an amateur radio (ham radio) frequency, legal ONLY for hobby operation. > There is an exception for 434 and other frequencies to be used for low power data transmissions, like car alarm remote controls, but the field strength limits restrict range to a very short distance. Effective power out for a legal data device on 434 is less than one milliwatt, although it is not measured that way. And that is for data only, not video or voice or anything. I have in my hand a 'licence free' Kenwood UBZ-LH68 10 milliwatt handy-talky and Ch 38 is 434.00 Mhz. No FCC data is provided. Andy Grudko (British), Grad I.S, South Africa Registered as a security service provider by the Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority, registration number 8642 www.grudko.com , andy@g... . Est. 1981. International investigations (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax). IPA, SACI, WAD, CALI, UKPIN, IWWA. When you need it done right - first time > > Another problem with using amateur frequecies is that many hams spend > all their waking hours listening for weak signals all around the > bands. The probability for intercept is very high. And, many amateur > frequencies are used as inputs to repeaters. 434 megacycles is the > input to one of the amateur repeaters in the LA basin. Transmit there > and you'll be sharing your signals with thousands of hobbyists over > several hundred square miles. It's happened, and the hams have had to > DF 'surveillance' transmitters used to monitor a parking lot. > > In two different cases I've had, one LE agency using spy shop stuff > got into the TV system in a hotel where they were working, and anyone > on the proper channel in any hotel room could watch the surveillance > in another room in the hotel. > > In another, at El Dorado airport in Bogota, the military was using > some wireless video purchased from a spy shop and got into the video > system of the entire airport. Their surveillance was seen on many > many video monitors throughout the airport, for the few minutes > before they discovered it and shut it down. > > With equipment most of us would have, it would be extremely difficult > to intercept a properly done LE video surveillance. Virtually all of > it is at microwave, you need to be in the path or very close, and > more and more of it is being encrypted. > > So, in a different way, you uncovered an illegal surveillance. > > Steve > > > ******************************************************************* > Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) > Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip > mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com > tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 > "In God we trust, all others we monitor" > ******************************************************************* > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > 7155 From: Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 0:33pm Subject: Bell Atlantic Employee Pleads Guilty to Leaking Information on Wiretap Former Bell Atlantic Employee Pleads Guilty to Leaking Information on Wiretap Investigations, Reports U.S. Attorney BOSTON, Mass., April 2 /PRNewswire/ -- A Weymouth man pleaded guilty yesterday in federal court to leaking wiretap information to bookies in exchange for relief from his gambling debts while he was an employee of Bell Atlantic. United States Attorney Michael J. Sullivan; Special Department of Justice Prosecutor John H. Durham; Federal Bureau of Investigation Inspector Gary M. Bald; and Colonel Thomas J. Foley, Superintendent of the Massachusetts State Police, announced that RICHARD H. O'BRIEN, age 66, of 79 Donald Street, Weymouth, Massachusetts, pleaded guilty yesterday before Senior U.S. District Judge Morris E. Lasker to a one count Information charging him with obstruction of justice. At yesterday's plea hearing, the prosecutor told the Court that had the case proceeded to trial, the evidence would have proven that O'BRIEN was employed as a Network Operations Manager at Bell Atlantic telephone company located in Taunton, Massachusetts. In the regular course of its business, Bell Atlantic would receive sealed court orders directing that it assist law enforcement agencies in their efforts to carry out lawful orders authorizing wiretaps and pen registers. O'BRIEN, through his position at Bell Atlantic, had access to, and knowledge of, these court ordered wiretaps and pen registers. Between January and August of 1999, O'BRIEN, in exchange for cash payments and other debt relief, disclosed to bookies who were targets of investigations being conducted by the FBI and the Massachusetts State Police, information concerning wiretaps and pen registers that had been in sealed court orders served on Bell Atlantic. Bell Atlantic terminated O'BRIEN on September 1, 1999. Judge Lasker scheduled sentencing for June 24, 2003 at 2:15pm. O'BRIEN faces a maximum sentence of 5 years in prison, to be followed by 3 years of supervised release and a fine of up to $250,000. The case is part of an ongoing investigation by the Justice Task Force which is comprised of federal prosecutors and members of the FBI who have no current or prior ties to the Boston area. The Task Force is under the direction of Special Assistant U.S. Attorney John Durham and FBI Inspector Gary Bald and was formed in January, 1999, in response to the recommendations of the former U.S. Attorney and FBI Special Agent in Charge. The case was prosecuted by Special Assistant U.S. Attorneys John H. Durham and Cynthia Shepherd. SOURCE U.S. Attorney CO: U.S. Attorney ST: Massachusetts SU: LAW http://www.prnewswire.com 04/02/2003 17:59 EST [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7156 From: A.Lizard Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 7:49pm Subject: RE: Useful conversion chart At 10:43 PM 4/2/03 +0000, you wrote: >Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 20:38:31 -0500 > From: "Steve Uhrig" >Subject: RE: Useful conversion chart > >On 1 Apr 2003 at 16:51, Robert Dyk wrote: > > > Been looking for this for years, my slide rule is almost worn out > > doing this conversion manually... > >Yeah, My $2 Pickett bamboo slide rule from college is nearly gone >too. When my dad dies, I inherit his aluminum Pickett. Luckily for me, the TI-30 hit the market just as I was starting to learn slide rule. I now wish I hadn't done the obvious thing and disposed of my cheapo plastic slide rule, most kids have never seen one before. >I to this day keep a circular slide rule in my truck for calculating >gas mileage. > >My $2 Pickett does cubes and cube roots. I've never seen a calculator >which does that. There's an nth root function on most "slide rule" calculators, where n=3, your cube root problem is solved. For instance, on the Windows scientific calculator, enter the number, click the Inverse function, then hit the X^3 key. > > BTW has anyone seen something similar to convert VA to Watts? > >It's not a direct conversion unless the load is purely resistive. > >Add any reactance and you get into Power Factor. Look it up. Power >factor of 1 is pure resistive load. Any reactance lowers the power >factor below 1, and you multiply by that fraction to get the true >rating. A typical example would be a PF of 0.7 for something like a >refrigerator. > >It annoys me that UPS systems are rated in VA rather than watts. I >suppose technically it's more precise, but I believe it is more an >advertising ploy than anything else. My 2200 VA UPS on the phone >system here, video, alarms, network hub, etc. is rated at 1600 watts >or 2200 VA. I guess they pick some arbitrary figure for power factor. > >Steve VA is at least technically the right unit for a UPS, power factor *is* relevant, switching power supplies for PCs are decidedly reactive loads, some more so than others. Laser printers are so far from being resistive loads that UPS manufacturers generally will tell users *NOT* to connect laser printers to them unless they are specifically rated for that service. So my laser printer is simply plugged into a surge protector (Tripp-Lite, I'm paranoid :-)) next to the plug for the UPS that powers the rest of my setup. A.Lizard ************************************************************************ member The Internet Society (ISOC), The HTML Writers Guild. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1753 Personal Website http://www.ecis.com/~alizard business Website http://reptilelabs.com backup address (if ALL else fails) alizard@C... PGP 8.0 key available by request,keyserver,or on my Web site Download PGP from http://www.pgpi.org for e-mail privacy. PGPfone v2.1 available for secure voice conferencing, get your own (W9x,NT,Mac) at http://www.pgpi.org/products/nai/pgpfone/ Disaster prep info: http://www.ecis.com/~alizard/y2k.html ************************************************************************ 7157 From: A Grudko Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 3:47am Subject: Re: RE: Useful conversion chart - Original Message ----- From: A.Lizard > Luckily for me, the TI-30 hit the market just as I was starting to learn slide rule. > I now wish I hadn't done the obvious thing and disposed of my cheapo plastic slide rule, most kids have never seen one before. I still have 2 and am tempted to put them in bank safety deposit boxes for my kids to inherit as part of a lost era. Andy Grudko (British), Grad I.S, South Africa Registered as a security service provider by the Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority, registration number 8642 www.grudko.com , andy@g... . Est. 1981. International investigations (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax). IPA, SACI, WAD, CALI, UKPIN, IWWA. When you need it done right - first time 7158 From: Matt Paulsen Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 7:39pm Subject: RE: Membership Warning I guess he'll will now 'sue' cryptome.. be prepared for more spam with more copyright than you can stand in your inbox.. http://cryptome.org/threats/iam-threat.htm - Original Message - > There is a convicted felon, and con artist in Tampa, Florida who has been spoofing email to members of this list, claiming that my website is going down 7159 From: Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 8:46pm Subject: Re: Membership Warning In a message dated 4/3/2003 6:08:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, mpaulsen6@a... writes: > http://cryptome.org/threats/iam-threat.htm and His truth goes marching on! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7160 From: kondrak Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 2:43am Subject: Re: Membership Warning I'm just surprised this guy hasn't met some..er..."unfortunate" circumstances to change his karma for good..... Apparently he has a historically long record of abusing people, (and apparently we on this list are not spared his lunatic rantings).. I wouldn't be surprised if he met some rather unfortunate luck. One day, he's going to abuse the wrong person, someone, who takes great umbrage at his actions and the only way we will know he's been dealt with, is by his lack of presence in the future. "The Internet provides a method that enables both the intelligentsia and the brain rotted can make their views known..." -Anon > > http://cryptome.org/threats/iam-threat.htm > >and His truth goes marching on! > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. >=================================================== TSKS > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 7161 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 2:00am Subject: RE: Membership Warning At 5:39 PM -0800 4/3/03, Matt Paulsen wrote: >I guess he'll will now 'sue' cryptome.. be prepared for more spam with more >copyright than you can stand in your inbox.. >http://cryptome.org/threats/iam-threat.htm > >- Original Message - >> There is a convicted felon, and con artist in Tampa, Florida who has been >spoofing email to members of this list, claiming that my website is going >down But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand. -Ezekiel 33:6 -jma -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and The Most Complete TSCM, Bug Sweep, Spy Hunting, and Counterintelligence Site on the Internet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Ph: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island GroupFax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008mailto:jmatk@t... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7162 From: Ocean Group - MU TSD Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 6:35pm Subject: Re: RE: Useful conversion chart The last person I saw with a slide rule was a lecturer showing how to do frequency response graphs for bode plots! I promptly pocketed one before they became like a dodo! Mine was a TI-30xa....how young am I!?! Cheers Oisin 7163 From: Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 8:55pm Subject: Demtec TEST Please ignore this is a test some of my postings are not making it ???????? TSCM [Technical Surveillance and Countermeasures] David McGauley Demtec Electronic Surveillance and Counter Measures Specialist Electrical/Electronics Engineer ex Police Demtec House Ormskirk Lancs L39 0HF UK 01695 558544 07866206112 demtec@a... www.demtec.co.uk [under construction] The manufacture and installation of custom made covert electronic audio and video devices Professional physical and electronic counter measures [sweep] services. Note: any fellow UKPIN members welcome to call in to discuss applications. Workshop located alongside the M58 junc 3 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 7164 From: Michael Puchol Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 3:52am Subject: Re: Membership Warning I've just been reading some of the stuff on this guy's site (which from the spelling alone suggests he's not a rocket scientist), and it seems clear that he's simply delusional. A few quotes, "You were warned about copying any image, text or files with out permission! Now your hard drive has told everything! Do you see it spinning? Do you know what it is doing? It will spin whenever it is told too, and it could spin until you remove the images or text. If you have more than 2 of these images, you may be in trouble. Copyright violations are a serious offense and you could learn just how serious this offense is, in a short time. Remove the images now or ? Ever heard of Object Embedded Source Code? You are going to love it!" (Found in some form of copyright warning) Er...so anyone who visits his site is inmediately infected by this drive-spinning anti-copying embedded code, right? I mean, all the images are stored in the web browser's local cache, unless otherwise configured, so.....I've never heard of OESC, since it doesn't exist - you cannot embed code in an image - you can hide code with stegano, watermark it, etc. but you simply CANNOT stick code in a JPG that will magically be run in the viewer's computer. "Safe Nuclear Power, Nature Safe Chemicals, Technical Surveillance and Countermeasures, Free Range Beef and Poultry Meats, Childrens Programing, Snack Foods,Organic Herbs and Speciality Video's & Books" Man, these guys will take over Microsoft & Amazon one of these days! Finally, the fact that they have an extensive links page to information about illegal interception, monitoring, cracking, warez, and other unsavoury activities is not very reassuring to potential costumers of this übersecurity company. Cheers, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "kondrak" To: Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] Membership Warning > I'm just surprised this guy hasn't met some..er..."unfortunate" > circumstances to change his karma for good..... > Apparently he has a historically long record of abusing people, (and > apparently we on this list are not spared his lunatic rantings).. I > wouldn't be surprised if he met some rather unfortunate luck. > One day, he's going to abuse the wrong person, someone, who takes great > umbrage at his actions and the only way we will know he's been dealt with, > is by his lack of presence in the future. > > "The Internet provides a method that enables both the intelligentsia and > the brain > rotted can make their views known..." -Anon > > > > > > > http://cryptome.org/threats/iam-threat.htm > > > >and His truth goes marching on! > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >======================================================== > > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > >=================================================== TSKS > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > 7165 From: Matt Paulsen Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 10:05am Subject: RE: Re: RE: Useful conversion chart I had one in the 4th grade.. -----Original Message----- From: Ocean Group - MU TSD [mailto:inertia@o...] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 4:36 PM To: TSCM Group Subject: [TSCM-L] Re: RE: Useful conversion chart The last person I saw with a slide rule was a lecturer showing how to do frequency response graphs for bode plots! I promptly pocketed one before they became like a dodo! Mine was a TI-30xa....how young am I!?! Cheers Oisin ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 7166 From: Matt Paulsen Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 10:04am Subject: RE: Membership Warning "Technical Surveillance and Countermeasures, Free Range Beef and Poultry Meats" We have a tire dealership that gives away free beef with the purchase of 4 new tires. I think the crazy is onto something.. Hey JMA.. when are you going to give away free beef with a sweep? :) 7167 From: A Grudko Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 1:14pm Subject: Scanlock ECM Has anyone out there got an operators manual for the Scanlock ECM that could be faxed/eMailed to me? Andy Grudko (British), Grad I.S, South Africa Registered as a security service provider by the Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority, registration number 8642 www.grudko.com , andy@g... . Est. 1981. International investigations (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax). IPA, SACI, WAD, CALI, UKPIN, IWWA. When you need it done right - first time 7168 From: Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 10:58am Subject: Rif: Useful conversion chart > A way for us to convert from cycles per second to Hertz. > http://brainerdham.org/Tips/CPS_to_Hz_conversion.html Odd, that nobody commented on the april-foolishness of the conversion and the diagram (and the date you sent it). When I was a chemical engineering student at the Milano Politecnico, I had two calculators: a 10-inch "desktop" model, for the heavy work, when a higher precision was needed, an a half-size "pocket" model, for the quick and dirty shots. I got my degree in 1969.... Ciao! Remo 7169 From: refmon Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 3:34pm Subject: Re: Membership Warning Hi, John Collins here. While I am not a licensed investigator, I have had to wrestle with this sort of thing many times. This felonious fraudulator is one of a few subjects I can comment on with some level of real knowledge, having dealt with the underlying maladjustments (to put it mildly) in personal and corporate situations. To put it in short form, all the discussion and public reaction, etc is contributing to keeping this guy afloat...he is all about the drama and controversy and drawing others into the emotional cyclone. This is an incredibly "convenient" malady for he who has it-all the symptoms are self-validating and all who are critical of the individual are automatically liars and frauds (again, in his mind). The more drawn into the drama or crisis everyone becomes, the more empowered (in his own mind) he becomes, and resultantly, the more in your face. As has been pointed out, at some point he may cross the wrong person, but it's not likely. In my experience, this sort of individual is eerily skilled at reading potential victims at a glance, has a chameleon-like presence, and walks the line just short of soliciting a violent or otherwise decisive reaction...thus, the low/mid level, constant, yammering and not-quite-worth-it legal violations. In the rare situation where he may get caught, convicted and slammered, he's a victim, he resets, and comes out even more righteous and "insightful". I'd predict that if everyone stopped reacting to the guy that he will attempt several times to create new dramas...getting no reaction, he will move on to other grazing grounds or simply fall apart. The problem remains that he moves on to other victims...those who serve to protect those victims don't get to walk away... I have had to work with mental health professionals who find this sort of personality disorder so draining that they must self-counsel within their own local groups in order to avoid fast burnout. The biggest mistake I have seen made with people like this is trying to use conventional enforcement or treatment modes...they do not respond in a constructive way. Corporate HR and Security departments usually don't seem to recognize this...there is no way that current policy established by a corporation of healthy people would even remotely apply to such an individual. Likewise, most normal, well meaning people are not equipped to spot and/or deal with such an individual. Just two cents worth from a battle worn corporate manager and father. good luck & best regards John Collins _______________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "James M. Atkinson" To: "TSCM-L Mailing List" Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 12:00 AM Subject: RE: [TSCM-L] Membership Warning > At 5:39 PM -0800 4/3/03, Matt Paulsen wrote: > >I guess he'll will now 'sue' cryptome.. be prepared for more spam with more > >copyright than you can stand in your inbox.. > >http://cryptome.org/threats/iam-threat.htm > > > >- Original Message - > >> There is a convicted felon, and con artist in Tampa, Florida who has been > >spoofing email to members of this list, claiming that my website is going > >down > > > > But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not > the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the > sword come, and take any person from among them, he > is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I > require at the watchman's hand. -Ezekiel 33:6 > > -jma > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ > The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and The Most Complete TSCM, > Bug Sweep, Spy Hunting, and Counterintelligence Site on the Internet. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ > James M. Atkinson Ph: (978) 546-3803 > Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 > 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ > Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 mailto:jmatk@t... > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ > Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > 7170 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 9:53am Subject: GPS Tracking Systems I need to purchase 25-30 GPS tracking systems for use on my own vehicles. The units will be installed in large heavy trucks, and the tracking data must be accessible via the net on a web page in the form of a map. Also, when the vehicles are moved, is moving, or when an covert security alarm is activated I need the service provider to maintain a detailed history of the truck movement. I'll arrange for installation on this end, so I am basically just looking for the black boxes, and a recommendation on a tracking service provider. -jma -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and The Most Complete TSCM, Bug Sweep, Spy Hunting, and Counterintelligence Site on the Internet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Ph: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island GroupFax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008mailto:jmatk@t... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7171 From: Mitch D Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 1:16pm Subject: Bad American (Off Topic humor) YES, I'M A BAD AMERICAN by George Carlin I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. I am George Carlin. I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some mid level governmental functionary be it Democratic or Republican! I'm in touch with my feelings and I like it that way, damn it! I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer, it makes you a smart American. I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything, you don't work for! I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, try to do it in English. And if you are a citizen of the United States start speaking the language. I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July. I think that being a student doesn't give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing the bill to put your pansy ass through 4 years plus, of college, you haven't begun to be enlightened. I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to. My heroes are John Wayne, Babe Ruth, Roy Rogers, and whoever canceled Jerry Springer. I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time arguing about it. I think global warming is a big lie. Where are all those experts now, when I'm freezing my ass off during these long winters and paying, paying, paying? I've never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn't wander forty years In the desert after getting chased out of Egypt. I haven't burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither have you! So, shut-the-Hell-up already. I want to know which church is it exactly where the Reverend Jesse Jackson practices, which branch of the Government he gets his money, and why he is always part of the problem and not the solution. Can I get an AMEN on that one? I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you're running from them. I also think they have the right to pull your ass over if you're breaking the law, regardless of what color you are. I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don't want you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the world for the next four years. I dislike those people standing in the intersections trying to sell me crap or trying to guilt me into making "donations" to their cause. These people should be targets. I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents, a married man and woman. I believe if she has her lips on your Willie, it's sex, and this applies even if you are President of the United States. And what the hell is going on with gas prices... again? If this makes me a BAD American, then yes, I'm a BAD American. If you are a BAD American too, please forward this to everyone you know. We need our country back! __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com 7172 From: kondrak Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 3:19pm Subject: Re: Rif: Useful conversion chart Ok, if we're trotting out old calculators stories... (grin) I've still got the first one I bought, and still use it daily. It's a Texas Instruments SR-10. I paid $40 for it, and that was I think 1970 or 71. When I bought it, I had the option (for that amount of money) or either a calculator that did scientific notation, or one with a memory. I opted for the scientific notation, as for me, easily getting .0005% of a 472 mhz signal was more important that a bit of flash memory that held a value for a while. That was back in high school, and I made the right choice. Its still used in the radio end of my work almost every day. I can say its been worth the $40, though for that money today, you can get a super-whizbang calculator that you cant even figure out how to program, its so complicated. >When I was a chemical engineering student at the Milano Politecnico, >I had two calculators: a 10-inch "desktop" model, for the heavy work, >when a higher precision was needed, an a half-size "pocket" model, >for the quick and dirty shots. I got my degree in 1969....