From: John and Sheryl Date: Mon Jun 7, 2004 6:15pm Subject: RE: CPM-700 [Free Stuff] Is it possible to purchase just the 12GHZ probe, as I already have a CPM-700 and do not require the case or extra probe. John -----Original Message----- From: James M. Atkinson [mailto:jmatk@t...] Sent: June 7, 2004 8:47 AM To: TSCM-L Subject: [TSCM-L] CPM-700 [Free Stuff] Effective immediately, any customer who purchases a CPM-700 Deluxe system ($3995) through me will receive almost $450 of extra probes and accessories at no additional charge. This includes the VLF probe, Infrared Probe, Acoustic Probe, and so on... a huge amount of good stuff, essentially for free. This should make it more attractive for list members to purchase the new 12 GHz microwave system, which is available for immediate shipment. You can also find details on the following page on my website: http://www.tscm.com/cpm700a.html As always, I will pickup the cost of shipping by express courier which will save you even more money. -jma ps: I have included a data-sheet on the deluxe system as an attachment, and have confirmed that it is clean, and not infected in any way. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- James M. 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 8837 From: John Papaleo Date: Mon Jun 7, 2004 2:23pm Subject: test email only test only ----- Original Message ----- From: "kondrak" To: Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] Chief wants FBI to have a domestic spy division > Hey, since 9.11, all the agencies who let us down are being rewarded with > huge budget increases and promotions. > As always, I ask, "Who benefits?" > > At 10:29 6/7/2004, you wrote: > > >Allowing the FBI to have another domestic spy division is a bit like > >allowing a pedophile to open up another day care center. > > > >-jma > > > > > > > >http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/news/24786.php > > > >Chief wants FBI to have a domestic spy division > >Robert Mueller > >THE ASSOCIATED PRESS > > > >WASHINGTON - FBI Director Robert Mueller, fighting calls for an independent > >domestic intelligence agency, proposed Thursday that the bureau create its > >own service to gather information to combat terrorism. > > > >The division would be largely independent from the rest of the FBI and have > >its own budget. It would include all the bureau's intelligence-gathering > >resources. The chief would report directly to Mueller. > > > >Mueller told a House Appropriations subcommittee that an independent > >domestic spy agency would have to duplicate much of the expertise already in > >the FBI and harm what's become the bureau's top priority: fighting > >terrorism. > > > >"Any reform proposal must recognize that intelligence is fundamental to > >successful FBI operations," he said. "Intelligence functions are woven > >throughout the fabric of the bureau, and any changes to this integrated > >approach would be counterproductive." > > > >Mueller did not provide estimates of how many new people would be hired or > >any additional costs for the initiative. > > > >Congressional reaction has been mixed on the need for a domestic spy agency. > > > >The chairman of the subcommittee, Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., asked Mueller in > >February to consider creation of the separate entity within the FBI. Wolf > >disagreed with those who want a separate agency similar to the British > >intelligence service. > > > >Britain's Security Service, known as MI-5, collects and analyzes > >intelligence to disrupt terrorism, espionage and sabotage but has no law > >enforcement powers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- > > > > > >We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- > > > > > > James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 > > Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 > > 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ > > Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- > > > > > > World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and > >Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >======================================================== > > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > >=================================================== TSKS > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > 8838 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Mon Jun 7, 2004 8:36pm Subject: RE: CPM-700 - BMP1200 Probe Upgrade Sorry John, but you would need to buy the BMP-1200 upgrade kit for $1695 to get the minimal system. You are essentially getting the extra probes for free, so it's actually a really good deal. -jma At 07:15 PM 6/7/2004, John and Sheryl wrote: >Is it possible to purchase just the 12GHZ probe, as I already have a CPM-700 >and do not require the case or extra probe. > >John > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8839 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Mon Jun 7, 2004 9:10pm Subject: Stephen J. Wilson - [was: Fwd: johnsoncounty] Hmmm, The General Criminal Court (in his neck of the woods) has someone by his name being brought up on charges on May 26, 2004 for criminal violation of a protective order. But what is curious is that the court records mention that at the time he was being held in Federal Jail, and there is no mention of bail, etc. How do you end up in Federal Custody for violating a protective order? -jma At 04:10 PM 6/7/2004, taylortscm@y... wrote: >judy grissom wrote:From judy grissom Mon Jun 7 >13:04:18 2004 >X-Apparently-To: taylortscm@y... via 216.136.175.211; Mon, 07 Jun >2004 13:04:29 -0700 >Return-Path: >Received: from 216.136.173.99 (HELO web12301.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.173.99) >by mta213.mail.dcn.yahoo.com with SMTP; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 13:04:28 -0700 >Message-ID: <20040607200418.91605.qmail@w...> >Received: from [24.15.169.101] by web12301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, >07 Jun 2004 13:04:18 PDT >Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 13:04:18 -0700 (PDT) >From: judy grissom >Subject: johnsoncounty >To: taylortscm@y... >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Length: 950 > >By: Dan Grissom > > > >Johnson County TN > >Stephen J. Wilson of Technical Intelligence Group, a >technical surveillance countermeasures (tscm) firm >Of Laurel bloomery TN, > >Was arrested on federal charges, of gun running, after >a lengthily surveillance by: ATF, DEA, FBI >Sources stated authorities also discovered hundreds of >marijuana plants growing on his property. > >The surveillance was cut short after Wilson made death >threats against his wife, authorities feared he would >make good on the threats. > >Wilson was also known on ebay as tscm-er where he sold >counter surveillance equipment, and defrauded ebay >patrons out of thousands of dollars prior to his >arrest. > >Mail and wire fraud charges are pending on the ebay >scam. > >Wilson is in federal custody in Greenville TN. > >Dan grissom >City news service >630.683.1900 > > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. >http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. >=================================================== TSKS >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8840 From: Steve Uhrig Date: Mon Jun 7, 2004 9:01pm Subject: RE: CPM-700 - BMP1200 Probe Upgrade Once upon a midnight dreary, James M. Atkinson pondered, weak and weary: > Sorry John, but you would need to buy the BMP-1200 upgrade kit for $1695 > to get the minimal system. > You are essentially getting the extra probes for free, so it's actually a > really good deal. John, maybe you could team with someone who wants the basic kit but can't afford or doesn't need the microwave probe. Then you'd both benefit. This certainly is a logical place to try to connect with someone to do that. Steve ******************************************************************* Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 "In God we trust, all others we monitor" ******************************************************************* 8841 From: Mitch D Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 0:26am Subject: tscm'er locked up Just for the record........ Stephen J Wilson is not locked up in Greene County Jail Stephen J Wilson does not have a PI license( required by the state for tscm work) Where did this story come from???????.......... ===== Mitch Davis TSCM/Special Operations Group Inc. Nashville,TN.USA MitchD@t... site:www.tscmusa.com. Tel (615)837-9933 FAX (615) 523-0300 Cell(615) 364-6776 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ 8842 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 1:24am Subject: Re: tscm'er locked up Check out http://www.thetomahawk.com/court_report.html Note the following: "Stephen J. Wilson; Viol. OP; Aug. 25. Def. in Federal Jail." The part about violating an OP is nothing major, but the "in Federal Jail" part is curious. If anybody has access to Pacer I would appreciate it if they could run a query on the name (in TN or VA) and post it to the list. We have a mystery afoot... Let's get to the bottom of this. -jma The information contained in this report is a matter of public record, and contains information from General Sessions Court of May 26, 2004, the Honorable Judge Bliss Hawkins presiding. The Tomahawk chooses to print this information for the benefit of its readers. People with names similar or identical to those listed may not be those identified in reports. If a defendant pays a fine late, a Capias may already have been issued and this information could appear in this report, even though the fine has been paid. Abbreviations: BA: Blood Alcohol; CTS: Cost to State; DORL: Driving on Revoked License; DOSL: Driving on Suspended License; DUI: Driving Under the Influence; DWI: Driving While Impaired; FTA: Failure to Appear; FTP; Failure to Pay: OP: Order of Protection; PI: Public Intoxication; PIF: Paid in Full; VOP: Violation of Probation. Raymond Arney; Expired DL. Dismissed CTS, has complied. Robert L. Askin; Speeding; June 30. Lloyd L. Bland; Expired DL, Viol. Regist. Law, No Ins. Dismissed CTS, motion of Atty. General. Has complied with all violations. Chadwick R. Brooks; Speeding, No Ins. Suspend DL for FTA. Gary L. Carlton; No Ins., Speeding, DUI, DORL Fourth; June 30. Amanda Church; DOSL, Speeding. Fines and costs, 5/29 susp. on paymt., 5/29 prob. Cross Roads. Condition of prob. that this is pd. in full. Shannon D. Collins; Speeding. Fines and costs, PIF. Bill M. Daddazio; Theft of Veh., Poss. Stolen Prop.; July 28. Michael Davis; Speeding. Suspend DL for FTA. Terry L. Davis; DOSL. Fines and costs, 5/29 susp. on paymt., 5/29 prob. CCI. Contd. July 28 for paymt. Robert Donahue; Vandalism, Inciting a Riot; July 21. Diana L. Dunn; Speeding. Fines and costs, PIF. Donna M. Enson; Viol. Regist. Law. Suspend DL for FTA. Burley Taylor; VOP. 183 days jail. Adam Erickson; Theft, Poss. Sch. VI, False Info. to Officer. Fines and costs, 11/29 susp. on paymt. x3, 11/29 prob. Cross Roads x3. Also: VOP. Dismissed CTS, motion of Atty. General and Prob. officer. Forf. cash bond. Vickie L. Farmer; Speeding. Fines and costs, PIF. Richard Fields, Jr.; Aiding and Abetting DUI Second; June 30 for plea. Billy R. Fletcher; Speeding. Fines and costs, contd. June 9 for paymt. Also: No Ins. Dismissed CTS, has complied. Monica Fitzgerald; Speeding, DOSL. Capias issued, $1,000 cash bond. Angelo A. Giarrusso; Speeding. Fines and costs, PIF. Kimberly Greene; Criminal Responsibility, Contrib. to Delinq. of Minor, Abandonment, Poss. Sch. II, Poss. Drug Para.; June 30 for trial. Rex Harman; Speeding. Fines and costs. James Humphrey; Speeding. Fines and costs, PIF. Christy Heaton “Margaret McElyea”’ Domestic Asslt. x2. Order issued. Contd. June 23 for paymt. Steve Jennings; Speeding. Suspend DL for FTA. Daniel C. Jones; DOSL. Fines and costs, PIF. Also: Viol. DL Law. Dismissed CTS, motion of Atty. General. Blu N. Key; Theft over $5,000. June 23. James E. Leathern; DOSL. Fines and costs, 5/29 susp. on paymt., 5/29 prob. CCI. Christopher Lewis; Speeding; June 30. David Lipford; Speeding, DL Viol., Failure to Maintain Lane, No Ins. Suspend DL for FTA. Johnny M. Long; Poss. Sch. IV, Poss. Sch. VI for Resale, Poss. Drug Para.; June 23. Ronald Mason; Speeding. Fines and costs, PIF. Scotty K. May; DORL. Bound over to Grand Jury July 26. Melvin M. Morrison; Speeding. Fines and costs, PIF. Jacqueline B. Neatherly; Speeding, No Ins.; June 30. To have ins. Charles Oliver; Identity Theft. Dismissed CTS, motion of Atty. General. Charles Osborne; Viol. Regist. Law x2, Vehicle Defects. PIF. James E. Osborne; Viol. Regist. Law. PIF. Christopher Owens; Speeding, Viol. Seatbelt Law. Fines and costs, PIF. Also: No Ins.; June 30, to have ins. Angela R. Phillips; Viol. Regist. Law. Suspend DL for FTA. James H. Phipps; Speeding. Fines and costs, PIF. Jack C. Proffitt; Domestic Asslt.; July 28. Matthew L. Reece; Speeding, Seatbelt Viol. Suspend DL for FTA. Robert L. Roberts; Speeding. Fines and costs, PIF. Jerry D. Sluder; Theft, Forgery, VOP x3; June 30. Barbara Smith; Speeding; June 30. Terry W. Snyder; Speeding. Fines and costs, PIF. Michael Street; Speeding. Fines and costs, PIF. Also: No Ins. Dismissed CTS, now has ins. Tamara D. Tate; DOSL. Fines and costs, 5/29 susp. on paymt., 5/29 prob. CCI. Contd. June 16 for paymt. William B. Tharp, Jr.; DUI, Viol. Implied Consent, Speeding, No Ins.; June 30 for plea. John Triplett; Speeding. Fines and costs, PIF. David Triplett; Crim. Trespass., Vandalism. Dismissed CTS, motion of Atty. General. Joey Wallace; Vandalism. Bound over to Grand Jury July 26. Eric Ward; DUI; June 23. Donald G. Warren; Poss. Sch. II for Resale, Poss. Drug Para., Going Armed. Fines and costs, 11/29 susp. but 60 days, 11/29 susp. on paymt., 30 days susp. on paymt., 11/29 prob. CCI x2, 30 days prob. Also: Viol. Traffic Control Device. Dismissed CTS, motion of Atty. General. Joshua Weeks; Poss. Drug Para., Mfg. Sch. VI. Bound over to Grand Jury July 26. Also: Poss. Sch. VI. Dismissed CTS, motion of Atty. General. Stephen J. Wilson; Viol. OP; Aug. 25. Def. in Federal Jail. Travis D. Wilson; Speeding. Fines and costs, PIF. James L. Wolfe; Speeding. Fines and costs, contd. June 30 for paymt. Daniel Winters; Poss. Drug Para., Poss. Legend Drug. Fines and costs, 11/29 susp. on paymt., 30 days, 11/29 prob. Cross Roads, 30 days prob. Lyle D. Wolfe; Speeding. Fines and costs, contd. Aug. 18 for paymt. Also: Improper Passing. Dismissed CTS, motion of Atty. General. Joseph Hamm, Jr.; VOP; July 14. Laura Johnson Estep; Reckless Driving, DORL x2, Driving Left of Center, Viol. Regist. Law. Fines and costs, 5/29 susp. but 5 days, 5/29 susp. on paymt. x2, 5/29 prob. Cross Roads x3. Cond. of prob. to pay in full. Also: No Ins., Viol. Seatbelt Law. Dismissed CTS, motion of Atty. General. James Keller; DUI. Fines and costs, 11/29 susp. but 2 days, 11/29 prob. Cross Roads, DL susp. for 11/29. Steve Estep; DORL Third; June 9. John Main; Asslt. Fines and costs, 11/29 susp. but time served, 11/29 prob… [] At 01:26 AM 6/8/2004, Mitch D wrote: >Just for the record........ >Stephen J Wilson is not locked up in Greene County Jail >Stephen J Wilson does not have a PI license( required by the >state for tscm work) >Where did this story come from???????.......... > >===== > >Mitch Davis >TSCM/Special Operations Group Inc. >Nashville,TN.USA >MitchD@t... site:www.tscmusa.com. >Tel (615)837-9933 FAX (615) 523-0300 Cell(615) 364-6776 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8843 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 8:40am Subject: Steve Wilson of TIG Burns at the Stake U.S. District Court (Live Database) Eastern District of Tennessee (Greeneville) CRIMINAL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 2:04-mj-00061-ALL Case title: USA v. Wilson Other court case number(s): None Magistrate judge case number(s): None Date Filed: 04/29/04 Assigned to: Magistrate Dennis H Inman Referred to: Defendant(s) ----------------------- Stephen J Wilson (1) represented by Tim S Moore Federal Defender Services of Eastern Tennessee, Inc. 129 West Depot Street Suite One Greeneville, TN 37743 423-636-1301 Fax : 423-636-1385 Email: Tim_Moore@f... LEAD ATTORNEY ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED Designation: Public Defender or Community Defender Appointment Pending Counts ---------------------- Disposition ---------------- None Highest Offense Level (Opening) --------------------------------------- None Terminated Counts ----------------------------- Disposition ---------------- None Highest Offense Level (Terminated) -------------------------------------------- None Complaints ---------------- Disposition ---------------- 21:841(a)(1),(b)(1)(B) MANUFACTURE MARIJUANA Plaintiff ------------------- UNITED STATES OF AMERICA represented by Edward P Bailey, Jr - 1832 Midpark Drive Suite F Knoxville, TN 37921 865-330-1020 LEAD ATTORNEY ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED Filing Date # Docket Text 04/29/2004 1 COMPLAINT against Stephen J Wilson signed by Mag Judge Dennis H. Inman (CSL) (Entered: 04/29/2004) 04/29/2004 WARRANT FOR ARREST issued for Stephen J Wilson by Mag Judge Dennis H. Inman (CSL) (Entered: 04/29/2004) 04/30/2004 ARREST of defendant Stephen J Wilson on 4/30/04 (CSL) (Entered: 04/30/2004) 04/30/2004 2 CTRM MINUTES: before Mag Judge Dennis H. Inman; initial appearance of Stephen J Wilson; dft sworn, found comptent, advised of charges/penalties, financial affidavit executed and approved; oral motion of USA for detention - granted; detention and preliminary hrg set for 9:00 5/3/04 for Stephen J Wilson before Mag Judge Dennis H. Inman; dft remanded to custody; Tape: 10:47:00, CD: Connie Lamb, AUSA: Edward Bailey, PTSO: Jennifer Bible (CSL) (Entered: 04/30/2004) 04/30/2004 3 CJA FORM 23 (Financial Affidavit) as to Stephen J Wilson, approved in the margin by USMJ Dennis H. Inman (CSL) (Entered: 04/30/2004) 04/30/2004 4 ORDER OF TEMPORARY DETENTION pending hrg 5/3/04 @ 9:00 a.m. by Mag Judge Dennis H. Inman as to Stephen J Wilson (cc: all counsel) (CSL) (Entered: 04/30/2004) 04/30/2004 5 ORDER by Mag Judge Dennis H. Inman, finding dft Wilson financially qualified for court-appointed counsel, appointing the Federal Defender Services as to Stephen J Wilson , setting a detention & prel hrg for 5/3/04 @ 9:00 a.m. (cc: all counsel) (CSL) (Entered: 04/30/2004) 05/03/2004 6 Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Dennis H Inman :Detention Hearing and Preliminary Hearing as to Stephen J Wilson held on 5/3/2004; witnesses sworn, proof offered by USA; proffer by USA and defense; oral argument by defense; gov't rests; defense rests; order to enter; oral motion of USA to unseal search warrant - granted; defendant remanded to custody (Court Reporter Jimmie Jane McConnell.) (CSL, ) (Entered: 05/03/2004) 05/03/2004 7 EXHIBIT and WITNESS LIST for 5/3/04 detention and preliminary hearing (CSL, ) (Entered: 05/03/2004) 05/03/2004 8 Search Warrant Issued in case as to Stephen J Wilson, application and affidavit originally filed 4/19/04 as case 2:04-54M and unsealed 5/3/04 (CSL, ) (Entered: 05/03/2004) 05/03/2004 9 Search Warrant Returned Executed on 04/22/04 in case as to Stephen J Wilson; search warrant case No. 2;04-54M unsealed 5/3/04 (CSL, ) (Entered: 05/03/2004) 05/03/2004 10 ORDER OF DETENTION pending trial as to Stephen J Wilson . Signed by Judge Dennis H Inman on 05-03-04. (CSL, ) (Entered: 05/03/2004) 05/03/2004 11 ORDER as to Stephen J Wilson, finding probable cause to believe that dft committed the offense with which he is charged, binding dft to the grand jury for further proceedings . Signed by Judge Dennis H Inman on 05/03/04. (CSL, ) (Entered: 05/03/2004) 05/10/2004 12 Warrant Returned Executed on 4/30/04. as to Stephen J Wilson. (BGP, ) (Entered: 05/10/2004) 05/26/2004 13 NOTICE OF HEARING as to Stephen J Wilson, Plea to information hearing set for 6/14/2004 09:00 AM in Courtroom 400 before Honorable J Ronnie Greer; criminal case number to be assigned on plea date. C/S by fax if no electronic receipt. (CSL, ) (Entered: 05/26/2004) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8844 From: Does it matter Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 10:21am Subject: Anthony in more trouble I posted about this before, but it appears that this situation has heated up again. http://www3.cjad.com/content/cp_article.asp? id=/global_feeds/canadianpress/entertainmentnews/e060233A.htm 8845 From: taylortscm@y... Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 10:38am Subject: Re: tscm'er locked up mitch: just for the record stephen j wilson is in federal custody in greenville tn>and trial is in mountain city dan taylor group Mitch D wrote: Just for the record........ Stephen J Wilson is not locked up in Greene County Jail Stephen J Wilson does not have a PI license( required by the state for tscm work) Where did this story come from???????.......... ===== Mitch Davis TSCM/Special Operations Group Inc. Nashville,TN.USA MitchD@t... site:www.tscmusa.com. Tel (615)837-9933 FAX (615) 523-0300 Cell(615) 364-6776 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TSCM-L/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TSCM-L-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 8846 From: G P Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 11:07am Subject: Re: Steve Wilson of TIG Burns at the Stake Bizarre. Steve Wilson bought a pristine 492PGM from me about 6 months ago, the transaction was a bit sketchy but I did eventually get paid (I wouldn't ship the SA until I was able to cash his cashier's check). Then, out of the blue about 2 months ago (around the same time as the initial complaint filed in this case), Steve sent me some email about doing some consulting work for U.S. Treasury and DEA, with a company called Secure USA. It was supposedly a large-scale surveillance project, store and forward interception, a bunch of TSCM services, Tektronix was involved etc. I sent Secure USA's NDA back, then never heard from him again. Methinks there is a bit more to this story than what the PACER docket reflects... "James M. Atkinson" wrote: U.S. District Court (Live Database) Eastern District of Tennessee (Greeneville) CRIMINAL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 2:04-mj-00061-ALL Case title: USA v. Wilson Other court case number(s): None Magistrate judge case number(s): None Date Filed: 04/29/04 Assigned to: Magistrate Dennis H Inman Referred to: Defendant(s) ----------------------- Stephen J Wilson (1) represented by Tim S Moore Federal Defender Services of Eastern Tennessee, Inc. 129 West Depot Street Suite One Greeneville, TN 37743 423-636-1301 Fax : 423-636-1385 Email: Tim_Moore@f... LEAD ATTORNEY ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED Designation: Public Defender or Community Defender Appointment Pending Counts ---------------------- Disposition ---------------- None Highest Offense Level (Opening) --------------------------------------- None Terminated Counts ----------------------------- Disposition ---------------- None Highest Offense Level (Terminated) -------------------------------------------- None Complaints ---------------- Disposition ---------------- 21:841(a)(1),(b)(1)(B) MANUFACTURE MARIJUANA Plaintiff ------------------- UNITED STATES OF AMERICA represented by Edward P Bailey, Jr - 1832 Midpark Drive Suite F Knoxville, TN 37921 865-330-1020 LEAD ATTORNEY ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED Filing Date # Docket Text 04/29/2004 1 COMPLAINT against Stephen J Wilson signed by Mag Judge Dennis H. Inman (CSL) (Entered: 04/29/2004) 04/29/2004 WARRANT FOR ARREST issued for Stephen J Wilson by Mag Judge Dennis H. Inman (CSL) (Entered: 04/29/2004) 04/30/2004 ARREST of defendant Stephen J Wilson on 4/30/04 (CSL) (Entered: 04/30/2004) 04/30/2004 2 CTRM MINUTES: before Mag Judge Dennis H. Inman; initial appearance of Stephen J Wilson; dft sworn, found comptent, advised of charges/penalties, financial affidavit executed and approved; oral motion of USA for detention - granted; detention and preliminary hrg set for 9:00 5/3/04 for Stephen J Wilson before Mag Judge Dennis H. Inman; dft remanded to custody; Tape: 10:47:00, CD: Connie Lamb, AUSA: Edward Bailey, PTSO: Jennifer Bible (CSL) (Entered: 04/30/2004) 04/30/2004 3 CJA FORM 23 (Financial Affidavit) as to Stephen J Wilson, approved in the margin by USMJ Dennis H. Inman (CSL) (Entered: 04/30/2004) 04/30/2004 4 ORDER OF TEMPORARY DETENTION pending hrg 5/3/04 @ 9:00 a.m. by Mag Judge Dennis H. Inman as to Stephen J Wilson (cc: all counsel) (CSL) (Entered: 04/30/2004) 04/30/2004 5 ORDER by Mag Judge Dennis H. Inman, finding dft Wilson financially qualified for court-appointed counsel, appointing the Federal Defender Services as to Stephen J Wilson , setting a detention & prel hrg for 5/3/04 @ 9:00 a.m. (cc: all counsel) (CSL) (Entered: 04/30/2004) 05/03/2004 6 Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Dennis H Inman :Detention Hearing and Preliminary Hearing as to Stephen J Wilson held on 5/3/2004; witnesses sworn, proof offered by USA; proffer by USA and defense; oral argument by defense; gov't rests; defense rests; order to enter; oral motion of USA to unseal search warrant - granted; defendant remanded to custody (Court Reporter Jimmie Jane McConnell.) (CSL, ) (Entered: 05/03/2004) 05/03/2004 7 EXHIBIT and WITNESS LIST for 5/3/04 detention and preliminary hearing (CSL, ) (Entered: 05/03/2004) 05/03/2004 8 Search Warrant Issued in case as to Stephen J Wilson, application and affidavit originally filed 4/19/04 as case 2:04-54M and unsealed 5/3/04 (CSL, ) (Entered: 05/03/2004) 05/03/2004 9 Search Warrant Returned Executed on 04/22/04 in case as to Stephen J Wilson; search warrant case No. 2;04-54M unsealed 5/3/04 (CSL, ) (Entered: 05/03/2004) 05/03/2004 10 ORDER OF DETENTION pending trial as to Stephen J Wilson . Signed by Judge Dennis H Inman on 05-03-04. (CSL, ) (Entered: 05/03/2004) 05/03/2004 11 ORDER as to Stephen J Wilson, finding probable cause to believe that dft committed the offense with which he is charged, binding dft to the grand jury for further proceedings . Signed by Judge Dennis H Inman on 05/03/04. (CSL, ) (Entered: 05/03/2004) 05/10/2004 12 Warrant Returned Executed on 4/30/04. as to Stephen J Wilson. (BGP, ) (Entered: 05/10/2004) 05/26/2004 13 NOTICE OF HEARING as to Stephen J Wilson, Plea to information hearing set for 6/14/2004 09:00 AM in Courtroom 400 before Honorable J Ronnie Greer; criminal case number to be assigned on plea date. C/S by fax if no electronic receipt. (CSL, ) (Entered: 05/26/2004) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. 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It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 8847 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 11:36am Subject: Stephen Wilson - Further Court Case Information According to David Sheppard (with the Sheriffs Department, (423) 727-7761), Steve Wilson was charged with violating a protective order under docket number #55209 in General Criminal Session Court held at Mountain City, TN. The phone number for the court is (423) 727-9633 x9012. According to affidavit filed in the case, Steve Wilson is accused of calling (by telephone) Penny Baker Wilson (his wife?) and threatening to kill her, burn her, murder her and so on unless she dropped criminal charges against him. The affidavit mentions that Steve intendes to plead guilty to the criminal charges against him in federal court, and that he was willing to serve his time, but that he wanted access to the children and wanted Penny Baker Wilson to drop the criminal complaint she had filed against him. The affidavit mentions that these threats were made on April 27, 2004 which would have been five days after the search warrant was issued (April 22, 2004) against his house and business, but three days before he was arrested by federal authorities. It sort of looks like Steve dug himself into a pretty deep hole, and then screwed himself by threatening someone who was a witness against him. -jma ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8848 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 1:36pm Subject: Re: Steve Wilson of TIG Burns at the Stake Yep, he was wildly buying and selling equipment for several months, and one the one hand was dumping all of his own TSCM equipment, but was also buy up related equipment. It gets even curious'er, and curious'er. Strange that the DEA would bust him if he was doing all that work for them... unless of course he was actually a confidential informant (ie: Narc) for the DEA, and the agency found out about his other business, and had no choice but to bust him. On the other hand they could have stubbled across his other business activities while they were doing a routine background check on him. Some really, really funny is going on here. I belive the company you may be referring to is: SecureUSA, Inc., and they have a website at: http://www.secureusa.net/ but they disavow any knowledge of him, or any relation to him. -jma At 12:07 PM 6/8/2004, G P wrote: >Bizarre. Steve Wilson bought a pristine 492PGM from me about 6 months >ago, the transaction was a bit sketchy but I did eventually get paid (I >wouldn't ship the SA until I was able to cash his cashier's check). > >Then, out of the blue about 2 months ago (around the same time as the >initial complaint filed in this case), Steve sent me some email about >doing some consulting work for U.S. Treasury and DEA, with a company >called Secure USA. It was supposedly a large-scale surveillance project, >store and forward interception, a bunch of TSCM services, Tektronix was >involved etc. I sent Secure USA's NDA back, then never heard from him again. > >Methinks there is a bit more to this story than what the PACER docket >reflects... > >"James M. Atkinson" wrote: > >U.S. District Court (Live Database) >Eastern District of Tennessee (Greeneville) >CRIMINAL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 2:04-mj-00061-ALL > >Case title: USA v. Wilson >Other court case number(s): None >Magistrate judge case number(s): None ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8849 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 2:27pm Subject: Steve Wilson is in the Custody of the U.S. Marshall's I have confirmed that Stephen J. Wilson is in fact in the custody of the U.S. Marshall's Service, and is being held at the Greene County Jail (AKA: Greene County Detention Center) run by the Greene County Sheriff's Department. Their number is (423) 798-1800, and they can confirm that he is being held on behalf of the U.S. Marshall's. Seems that Steve Wilson was or is also a member of ERI/BECCA, and that some of the membership was warmly embracing him, referring customers to him, endorsing him, etc, etc even after some of the membership was warned at a criminal indictment was in Wilson's future. -jma ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8850 From: G P Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 2:43pm Subject: Re: Steve Wilson of TIG Burns at the Stake I checked out that Secure USA site, it's not the same company - the one he was involved with is headquartered out of NoVA / Washington D.C. Initially I wasn't interested in the opportunity, he then sent me paper copies of all of the involved principals' resumes - a very impressive group with lots of D.C. credentials, execs from NIPC, former VPs from DOE with Critical Infrastructure Protection, members of the World Economic Forum, all with ties to past and current administrations. Definitely more to this story than what's being reported... "James M. Atkinson" wrote: Yep, he was wildly buying and selling equipment for several months, and one the one hand was dumping all of his own TSCM equipment, but was also buy up related equipment. It gets even curious'er, and curious'er. Strange that the DEA would bust him if he was doing all that work for them... unless of course he was actually a confidential informant (ie: Narc) for the DEA, and the agency found out about his other business, and had no choice but to bust him. On the other hand they could have stubbled across his other business activities while they were doing a routine background check on him. Some really, really funny is going on here. I belive the company you may be referring to is: SecureUSA, Inc., and they have a website at: http://www.secureusa.net/ but they disavow any knowledge of him, or any relation to him. -jma At 12:07 PM 6/8/2004, G P wrote: >Bizarre. Steve Wilson bought a pristine 492PGM from me about 6 months >ago, the transaction was a bit sketchy but I did eventually get paid (I >wouldn't ship the SA until I was able to cash his cashier's check). > >Then, out of the blue about 2 months ago (around the same time as the >initial complaint filed in this case), Steve sent me some email about >doing some consulting work for U.S. Treasury and DEA, with a company >called Secure USA. It was supposedly a large-scale surveillance project, >store and forward interception, a bunch of TSCM services, Tektronix was >involved etc. I sent Secure USA's NDA back, then never heard from him again. > >Methinks there is a bit more to this story than what the PACER docket >reflects... > >"James M. Atkinson" wrote: > >U.S. District Court (Live Database) >Eastern District of Tennessee (Greeneville) >CRIMINAL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 2:04-mj-00061-ALL > >Case title: USA v. Wilson >Other court case number(s): None >Magistrate judge case number(s): None ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 8851 From: taylortscm@y... Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 1:25pm Subject: Re: Stephen Wilson - Further Court Case Information jim: I talked to ed bailey all he do was to confirm he is the federal prosicuting stephen j wilson in the drug case , for manufacturing more than one hundred marijuana plants. dan grissom taylor group "James M. Atkinson" wrote: According to David Sheppard (with the Sheriffs Department, (423) 727-7761), Steve Wilson was charged with violating a protective order under docket number #55209 in General Criminal Session Court held at Mountain City, TN. The phone number for the court is (423) 727-9633 x9012. According to affidavit filed in the case, Steve Wilson is accused of calling (by telephone) Penny Baker Wilson (his wife?) and threatening to kill her, burn her, murder her and so on unless she dropped criminal charges against him. The affidavit mentions that Steve intendes to plead guilty to the criminal charges against him in federal court, and that he was willing to serve his time, but that he wanted access to the children and wanted Penny Baker Wilson to drop the criminal complaint she had filed against him. The affidavit mentions that these threats were made on April 27, 2004 which would have been five days after the search warrant was issued (April 22, 2004) against his house and business, but three days before he was arrested by federal authorities. It sort of looks like Steve dug himself into a pretty deep hole, and then screwed himself by threatening someone who was a witness against him. -jma ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TSCM-L/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TSCM-L-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 8852 From: kondrak Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 3:03pm Subject: Wireless Hackers Leave No Tracks > > >http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/story/0,10801,93625,00.html > >Security Manager's Journal by Vince Tuesday >JUNE 07, 2004 >COMPUTERWORLD > >I'm a parasite. I didn't pay for the bandwidth I'm using right now. I >didn't ask for permission to use it -- I don't even know whom to ask. >But I'm on holiday, I have a few bits of work to finish up before I >can relax, and I need to send my e-mail. > >The broadband service in the rented house doesn't work, so I stuck in >my wireless LAN card and found two WLANs covering the house. One has a >Secure Set Identifier of "lopez" and has Wired Equivalent Privacy >turned on; the other has an SSID of "default" and no WEP. > >My wireless card has automatically associated with the "default" base >station, which gave me a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol address. >Now I'm connected to the Internet at 11Mbit/sec. with no fee and no >restrictions on what I can do. > >When WLANs hit the mainstream a few years ago, the security focus was >on confidentiality, and vendors included WEP to encrypt data in the >air. WEP has flaws -- it might not stop a snooper in your parking from >reading your data -- but just the fact that "lopez" had it turned on >was enough to turn my attention elsewhere. Why hack "lopez" when >"default" is sending in the clear? > >But having data sniffed from the air isn't the real threat that >wireless poses. That problem is easily solved by using cryptography. A >bigger worry is "de-perimeterization," which is a fancy way of saying >that the walls of the normal fortress model are falling away, thanks >in part to wireless. In the good old days, you inventoried all >external connections and put firewalls in front of them. Now, nearly >every organization has so many connections to the outside that it >isn't feasible to set up firewalls to control access to all of them. >If your wireless users need access to all of the internal services, >what can you block with a firewall? > >And if you're a hacker, why bother trying to intercept data from the >traffic flying about when you can just connect to the network and >pretend to be a legitimate client? Once you become a full node on the >network, you don't have to wait for a client to connect to download >the information you want and sniff it. Instead, you can just waltz >right in and take what you want. This is a lot less covert, but unless >the target has a hair-trigger intrusion-detection system configuration >and very good triangulation equipment, you probably won't be >discovered. > >My company's authorized wireless access points have strong >authentication, so only legitimate clients can connect, but all our >exterior defenses might be for naught if a staff member plugs in a $99 >access point. > >To protect against this, my team and I run regular sweeps to check for >illegitimate access points that might allow unauthorized users to >connect. We had a few early run-ins with staff when we began the >sweeps, but now the authorized service is so good that everyone is >happier using that than they would be trying to sneak new equipment >into the office. > > >Insecure Access > >In these sweeps, we've detected many access points that are >transmitting from outside the company walls. It's interesting to see >that all the bars and restaurants near our offices have WLANs for >waiters to send orders to the kitchen. All are insecurely configured. >However, since the worst anyone could do is jump the queue for >ordering drinks, perhaps the low level of protection is all that's >necessary. > >The only time I really went white was when a sweep at my company >identified more than 30 unauthorized access points on a single floor. >I couldn't imagine why an entire department would go crazy and try to >provide its own competing WLAN service. > >But when I tried to connect to one of the access points, I could get >only a printer service Web page. It turned out that our printer vendor >had shipped a batch of printers with wireless printing support enabled >by default. Each was functioning as a WLAN access point. We disabled >the cards and asked the vendor to do the same with future orders. > >Rogue access points in the office are a problem we can solve, but the >real WLAN problem that strikes terror into my heart is the home user. > >Before WLANs, if I were a hacker or virus writer or if I wanted to >download or share illegal material, I had limited options. I could use >my own account and eventually get caught after the feds tracked the >abuse back to me. I could steal an AOL account by phishing until the >feds used phone traces to catch me. Or I could wander into a Web cafe, >do my evil deeds and flee, leaving closed-circuit TV footage, >fingerprints and physical evidence the feds could use to put me behind >bars. > >With WLANs, things have changed. On most streets in big metropolitan >areas, a few people have broadband, and at least one uses it with an >insecure wireless connection. Perhaps half of those people turn on the >Windows XP firewall, but that won't stop an attacker. They just get >within range and connect. There's no physical evidence, no >closed-circuit TV, and the poor schmuck whose broadband connection >gets used is the one whom the feds raid. > >So while the WLAN connection I'm using now is helpful to me as I >finish up my work while on holiday, someone else could just as easily >be using it to launch attacks before disappearing anonymously back >into the night. > >There's no chance that home users will move to two-factor >authentication for their wireless networks, so I'm making sure that my >current designs for Web-facing infrastructure don't rely on being able >to track down and stop attackers. Clearly, that's no longer possible. > > >What do You Think? > >This week's journal is written by a real security manager, "Vince >Tuesday," whose name and employer have been disguised for obvious >reasons. Contact him at vince.tuesday@h... 8853 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 3:28pm Subject: Re: Steve Wilson of TIG Burns at the Stake What city were they in? Do you have a website for them? When you say "NoVa in Washington" are you referring to Jack Mogus of Nova Security? I know that Steve Wilson was tied up with Buck Hall (AKA: Lawrence B. Hall ) for a while, but is any of this related to him? He (Wilson) was also involved with Tim Johnson and Bob Bryant at the World Institute, and that Wilson is still listed as a member of the faculty (see next message). -jma At 03:43 PM 6/8/2004, G P wrote: >I checked out that Secure USA site, it's not the same company - the one he >was involved with is headquartered out of NoVA / Washington D.C. > >Initially I wasn't interested in the opportunity, he then sent me paper >copies of all of the involved principals' resumes - a very impressive >group with lots of D.C. credentials, execs from NIPC, former VPs from DOE >with Critical Infrastructure Protection, members of the World Economic >Forum, all with ties to past and current administrations. > >Definitely more to this story than what's being reported... > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 8854 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 3:44pm Subject: Steve Wilson - Member of the Faculty of World Institute Curious that so many other folks in the business are listed as faculty at World Institute along with Steve Wilson. Check out: http://www.worldinstitute.org/wise/people/biosw.html He also seems to have a background in agriculture as well [ouch]. Bob Bryant at WISE may want to do a little pruning and make some edits on his website. -jma Attached: >World Institute for Security Enhancement >Steve Wilson > >Steve Wilson, is a member of the faculty of the World Institute for >Security Enhancement. Mr. Wilson is the president of the Technical >Intelligence Group, Incorporated. He has more than 10 years experience in >providing high level counterintelligence services to Fortune 500 >clientele, as well as several large foreign national corporations. > >Mr. Wilson has served as a consultant to both industry and Government in a >number of diverse assignments. He has served as a consultant to a major >American manufacturer of counterintelligence products as an expert in >telephone systems to assist in the design of their latest anti-wiretapping >products. He has also served as a consultant to the U. S. Custom's Special >Investigations Unit for secure Title III counterintelligence products. He >has served as a Technical (TSCM) Consultant to a government TSCM licensing >agency certifying schools and students. > >During his ten years with AT&T he was assigned to World Headquarters as >the National Director of Technical Products Development & Training for >Management Personnel. In this capacity he was responsible for Private >Branch Exchange (PBX) and Electronic Tandem Exchange (ETN) design He has >also configured and coordinated the installation of secure products >(including Tempest) Data Communications Networks to large Government and >(DOD) contractors. > >Mr. Wilson is currently Chairman of the Smoky Mountains Chapter of the >American Society for Industrial Security. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8855 From: kondrak Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 4:13pm Subject: Re: Anthony in more trouble 404'ed At 11:21 6/8/2004, you wrote: >I posted about this before, but it appears that this situation has >heated up again. > >http://www3.cjad.com/content/cp_article.asp? >id=/global_feeds/canadianpress/entertainmentnews/e060233A.htm > > > > > > > >======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. >=================================================== TSKS >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > 8856 From: G P Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 4:18pm Subject: Re: Steve Wilson of TIG Burns at the Stake Most were in Washingon D.C., specifically Northern Virginia area. Buck Hall was one of the resumes, I'm on the road this week so I'll have to dig up the others when I get back home. "James M. Atkinson" wrote: What city were they in? Do you have a website for them? When you say "NoVa in Washington" are you referring to Jack Mogus of Nova Security? I know that Steve Wilson was tied up with Buck Hall (AKA: Lawrence B. Hall ) for a while, but is any of this related to him? He (Wilson) was also involved with Tim Johnson and Bob Bryant at the World Institute, and that Wilson is still listed as a member of the faculty (see next message). -jma At 03:43 PM 6/8/2004, G P wrote: >I checked out that Secure USA site, it's not the same company - the one he >was involved with is headquartered out of NoVA / Washington D.C. > >Initially I wasn't interested in the opportunity, he then sent me paper >copies of all of the involved principals' resumes - a very impressive >group with lots of D.C. credentials, execs from NIPC, former VPs from DOE >with Critical Infrastructure Protection, members of the World Economic >Forum, all with ties to past and current administrations. > >Definitely more to this story than what's being reported... > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. 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It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 8857 From: Does it matter Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 5:24pm Subject: Re: Anthony in more trouble Don't know why but here is a link to another article... Sorry http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/8813967 .htm?1c http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml? type=domesticNews&storyID=5314646 --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, kondrak wrote: > 404'ed > > At 11:21 6/8/2004, you wrote: > >I posted about this before, but it appears that this situation has > >heated up again. > > > >http://www3.cjad.com/content/cp_article.asp? > >id=/global_feeds/canadianpress/entertainmentnews/e060233A.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >======================================================== > > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > >=================================================== TSKS > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > 8858 From: A Grudko Date: Wed Jun 9, 2004 0:03am Subject: RE: Virus sent to this list From: James M. Atkinson [mailto:jmatk@t...] > Could you please send me a copy of the error message you got from your ISP. Unfortunatly I deleted it at once - I get many spoofed messages every day but I recalled it because it was the first one I have seen 'from' this group. I belong to just one other yahoogroup which is spoofed out of the about 40 lists that I belong to. I'll try to recover it. My personal and business addresses have been spoofed befor and I receive many 'virus attached' warnings from people I have never heard of. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Uhrig [mailto:steve@s...] Sent: 07 June 2004 07:31 PM > A number of lists send monthly mission statements (it is an integral feature of Yahoogroups) and I got perhaps six all on top of one another yesterday morning, from different lists. I don't think I have ever seen a 'mission statement' although I belong to about 40 groups - perhaps my group settings are different or yahoo might target people in countries (based on the address name - .co.za is a tiny market for the big boys. My multinational clients all peg us at about 1% of world market) Andy G Afrika Suid --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.692 / Virus Database: 453 - Release Date: 2004/05/28 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 8859 From: Date: Wed Jun 9, 2004 3:29am Subject: CNN.com - Web-linked cameras let users play Big Brother - Jun 7, 2004 Web-linked cameras let users play Big Brother Monday, June 7, 2004 Posted: 1:56 PM EDT (1756 GMT) YOUR E-MAIL ALERTS Computer Security Computer Networking Internet or CREATE YOUR OWN Manage alerts | What is this? TAIPEI, Taiwan (Reuters) -- Big Brother is getting a whole lot of little siblings. New surveillance cameras allow anyone with a broadband Internet connection to keep a 24-hour watch on nearly anything from anywhere. Want to monitor your house from the office? Connect one of the cameras to an Ethernet or wireless computer network at home, then navigate your browser to a Web site linked to an Internet address assigned to the camera. These Internet protocol (IP) cameras, made by companies including Cisco Systems Inc's Linksys unit and Sweden's Axis Communications, function as stand-alone servers that stream video over the Web. In Europe alone, IP cameras are expected to account for about 20 percent of a surveillance market forecast to be worth 376.5 million euros ($460 million) in annual sales by 2008, up from less than five percent today, according to IMS Research. "It's going to be one of the biggest trends in the surveillance market over the next few years without a doubt," said Simon Harris, a senior IMS analyst. "The companies that don't have good product offerings for (Internet) network surveillance are going to lose market share." In a sign of the market's growth, the organizers of last week's Computex computer trade show in Taipei set up a security pavilion for the first time, populated by about 25 vendors. Systems ran the range from simple configurations allowing parents to check on their children, to 16-camera networks providing multi-point remote surveillance of office buildings. Broadband-based systems Extra bells and whistles included cameras controlled via the Internet to scan a room, systems that trigger remote alarms when motion is detected, and ones whose views are accessible over cellphones and wireless personal digital assistants (PDAs). Such systems offer the advantage of relative affordability, since they use existing broadband infrastructure. Off-the-shelf software-equipped cameras cost just US$200-$300 apiece, said vendors at Computex, most of them smaller firms. More consumer oriented models, such as the Linksys model, can cost even less. Broadband-based systems are also more easily integrated with related systems that regulate functions such as access control, said Jill Chu, a sales specialist with G-Star Communications Inc. A drawback is the complexity of setting up systems, said Jin Whan, a product engineer at 3JTech Co Ltd. "The configuration is the hard part, but once you get that figured out the operation is easy," he said at Computex. For that reason, most of 3JTech's biggest customers so far have been specialty security companies, such as Napco Security Systems Inc, a supplier to Tyco International Ltd's ADT Security Systems Inc. "Sales are picking up gradually," Whan said. "There's more and more people asking for IP cameras. The technology is getting more accepted because people are moving to the Internet more." ---------- http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/06/07/broadband.cameras.reut/index.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 8860 From: Date: Wed Jun 9, 2004 1:35pm Subject: Latest News Article - FreeRealTime.com IPIX Surveillance Systems Used for Security and Logistics at 2004 G8 Summit Full-360 Degree CommandView Security Cameras Protecting G8 Dignitaries and Viewed by Multiple Security Agencies OAK RIDGE, Tenn., Jun 9, 2004 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- IPIX Security, a premium supplier of video surveillance technology, today announced its Full-360 degree video surveillance systems are deployed for multiple applications at the 2004 G8 Summit. "IPIX(TM) is a huge asset for us," said Spencer Geissinger, Deputy Executive Director of the 2004 G8 Summit. "Homeland Secretary Tom Ridge designated the 2004 G8 Summit as a national security special event, which is the highest designation any event in the U.S. can be given. Events such as the Olympics, the Super Bowl and this Summit have received that designation. The enhanced security measures include IPIX CommandView(TM) security cameras, which are playing critical roles in protecting citizens and foreign dignitaries at the Summit. IPIX is an absolutely essential tool, and I'm confident that it will be used at summits and high security events in the future." "What's incredible about the IPIX technology is not only can you see the entire Summit Venue, you can pick something out and zoom in to further identify what it is, why it's there and if it's a threat. As a command and control tool it is phenomenal," said James Ramsey, Jr., Lt. Colonel, Retired, Chief Information Officer for the G8 and past Head of Communications for the White House. "Organizers of the G8 Summit installed multiple IPIX CommandView and IPIX CommandView360(TM) Cameras at critical locations including airports, landing zones and meeting rooms over a 120-mile area from Savannah, Ga. to Sea Island, Ga., site of the 2004 G8 Summit," said Jim Griffin, VP and General Manager, IPIX Security. "The cameras are being viewed on IPIX workstations by multiple security and logistics agencies, the Summit Planning Organization, national and international delegations and the U.S. Secret Service." About IPIX Security IPIX Security is a premium supplier of Full-360 degree video surveillance technology for critical government and commercial security applications. IPIX Security, using its patent protected technology, offers digital video surveillance systems that provide complete and continuous situational awareness by allowing users to see everything at the same time. Users can navigate within a live or recorded video scene in all directions using pan-tilt-zoom with no moving parts. IPIX Security video surveillance cameras provide superior image quality through the use of high-resolution multi-megapixel sensors operating at full video frame rates. IPIX Security is a business unit of IPIX Corporation (Nasdaq: IPIX) IPIX Corporation offers mission critical imaging where visual content is required for eCommerce and the protection of life and property. Learn more about IPIX's three business units (IPIX AdMission, IPIX Security and IPIX InfoMedia) at www.ipix.com. NOTE: IPIX, IPIX CommandView and IPIX CommandView360 are trademarks of IPIX Corporation. SOURCE IPIX Security CONTACT: Paul Farmer of IPIX, +1-925-242-4002, or CFO@i... URL: http://www.ipix.com http://www.prnewswire.com Copyright (C) 2004 PR Newswire. ---------- http://quotes.freerealtime.com/dl/frt/N?symbol=IPIX&art=C2004060900161p0081&SA=Latest%20News [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 8861 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Wed Jun 9, 2004 2:23pm Subject: Steve Wilson Drug Bust According to the DEA looks like the U.S. Forestry Department may have been involved in the bust as well. They claim that he was also growing some really serious dope on National Forests, and that the had been on to him for some time. It also sounds like there was a huge civil forfeiture of all of his assets, house, vehicles, bank accounts, etc, etc. Should be interesting to see if he flips on his associates... including a number of people in the TSCM industry. A source with some knowledge of Wilson's business activities mentions that Wilson claimed to be working with Michael Hershman, currently the Chairman for Civitas Group and Allegent Technology Group: http://www.allegent.net/company_team.html At the time Hershman was CEO for DSFX (now part of Vance International), Wilson claimed he was supplying equipment and training for intelligence officers for House of Saud (Government of Saudi Arabia). Wilson claimed that he and Hershman's had ties to Mossad, and that DSFX was actually an Israeli owned company. If this is true it would mean that the government of Israel has a U.S. front company and is teaching technical intelligence to Saudi Intelligence officers (which would give the Israeli government a major advantage over the Saudi's). It is indeed a curious state of affairs. I will try to obtain the court documents to see what else they reveal, so far the court records reflect that he is/was penniless, that he was appointed free counsel, couldn't make bail, no one would sign for him, etc. and it sounds like he may push for a plea bargain (mentioned in other criminal proceedings). It sounds like the government has an extremely strong case against Wilson, and that they were forced to move early on him due to some kind of domestic situation. -jma ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. 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An auditor in the Justice Department's Office of the Inspector General reported the laptop had been stolen three weeks ago; after further questioning, he changed his story and said that he accidentally damaged the machine and destroyed it and threw it in a dumpster because he was so embarrassed. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5092991/site/newsweek 8863 From: contranl Date: Wed Jun 9, 2004 6:32pm Subject: . Have a look at these wonderful pictures of the latest "screening" fashion from the UK where the hype on "possible health effects" from their new wireless digital police networks called Airwave/Tetra has reached an absolut high. You may want to buy that hat for your wives birthday :) :) :) http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/sales/screen.htm Enjoy Tetrascanner www.tetrascanner.com . 8864 From: Charles Patterson Date: Wed Jun 9, 2004 8:21pm Subject: Re: Steve Wilson Jim, Your source of information may be misleading. >Seems that Steve Wilson was or is also a member of ERI/BECCA, and that some >of the membership was warmly embracing him, referring customers to him, I do not know Steve Wilson and have never met him, but I have been a member of Becca and then ERI since 1998. I have never ever seen Steve Wilson's name on any roster or membership list. I have never seen him at any ERI or BECCA meetings, I have never received any emails or other messages recommending him or his services. I do not even recall ever hearing his name mentioned at any meetings. Could a member have "warmly embraced" him on their own time? Sure, I wouldn't know, but that's none of my business and has nothing to do with ERI. regards, Charles Charles Patterson Global Communications Tarrytown, NY cp@t... ----- Original Message ----- From: James M. Atkinson To: TSCM-L Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 3:27 PM Subject: [TSCM-L] Steve Wilson is in the Custody of the U.S. Marshall's I have confirmed that Stephen J. Wilson is in fact in the custody of the U.S. Marshall's Service, and is being held at the Greene County Jail (AKA: Greene County Detention Center) run by the Greene County Sheriff's Department. Their number is (423) 798-1800, and they can confirm that he is being held on behalf of the U.S. Marshall's. Seems that Steve Wilson was or is also a member of ERI/BECCA, and that some of the membership was warmly embracing him, referring customers to him, endorsing him, etc, etc even after some of the membership was warned at a criminal indictment was in Wilson's future. -jma ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group Fax: (978) 546-9467 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@t... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================== TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TSCM-L/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TSCM-L-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 8865 From: Date: Wed Jun 9, 2004 9:03pm Subject: Re: Steve Wilson I just read Charles Pattersons note on a Steve Wilson.. I am as Charles a current member of ERI and was also a member of its predecessor BECCA. I have never heard of Mr. Wilson and as to promoting someone's business ERI does not do this as I know it. There are members of ERI that I have not met and some do not attend the annual conference in the DC area and if Mr. Wilson is a member or other I am not aware of it. Bill Rhoads