From: James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Tue Jul 4, 2000 1:48am Subject: Re: Infrared viewing At 11:32 PM -0700 7/3/00, Gordon Mitchell wrote: >Welcome to the group. A long explanation to your short question follows. > >The trickery that we use (and love) for seeing fluorescence of stuff >in the UV doesn't work in the IR. An excellent post regarding UV lighting, thanks Gordon. One of the IR viewing methods we use involves the OmniChrome light source, and an IR sensitive CCD camera. This is in addition to visible light and UV light viewing. Works like gangbusters when examining altered documents, glue lines, paint marks, or materials that may not want to react with UV florescence. Very interesting results when looking at marks on the walls, or molding strips that may have been deformed by a wire installation. Someone once told me that virtually everything on earth "glows" if it is excited by the appropriate wavelength of light, the only problem is that the "glow" may not be visible to the unaided eye. We also use a variety of UV fingerprint powders (of different colors) mixed with KY Jelly which is then applied with an acid brush to the inside of wiring boxes, telephones, computers, wiring blocks,cross connect wiring, and so on. That way we can see if anybody has been "fooling with anything" since our last TSCM visit. -jma =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke =================================================================== 753 From: James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Tue Jul 4, 2000 1:54am Subject: Re: Infrared viewing > >Larry Nevin wrote: > > > This is my first time using the e-groups for > > information. > > > > Is it possible to purchase glasses that will allow me > > to view IR emissions? I am not interested in night > > vision equipment. What I was thinking about was > > barrier type glasses like the ones I use for my UV > > lights. Gary, If you use a NVD IR device be sure to use a Wratten #25 I/R filter, and a tri-color green (#58 I think) filter over the objective for better results. For UV lighting use a medium orange viewing screen... and a UV face shield to avoid a rather painful condition known as "Ground Glass Eyeball" or even a sunburn (depending on the wavelength of light your using). -jma =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke =================================================================== 754 From: A Grudko Date: Tue Jul 4, 2000 5:48am Subject: Re: Research Electronics Equipment ----- Original Message ----- > The OSCOR and CPM-700 make an excellent package to get started with, > and we have had really good luck with them. I'm also very happy with the CPM-700 except that it is prown to blowing the first stage transistor in the RF probe if you touch a metal object and there is a static discharge. We have blown 3 that way. Our winters are very dry and some carpet/shoe friction combinations cause serious discharges - you can see the spark even in daylight. We tell our technicians to touch metal frequently to discharge and obviously try to keep the probe away from any conducting surface, but.... Taking shoes off helps but looks weird to the client. We tried a computer tech.'s wristband with a long cable to earth but that has it's own disadvantages - one blow-out was 'cos the tech. didn't realised he'd pulled the cable out by stepping on it and touched a metal filing cabinette. Well that's his story. I don't have the same problem with the Scanlock. I can only think of re-fitting the probe's PCB into a bigger box with BNC m & f's, add some static protection and make up a strip of veroboard straight through the neat little CPM probe to the antenna. Any better suggestions? Andy Grudko (CEO) - Grudko Wilson Associates (SA) (Pty) Ltd - Crime investigation & intelligence Johannesburg - Cape Town - Durban - Pretoria - UK - US - Canada - Australia - Israel. Agents in 43 countries - www.grudko.com - (+27 11) 465 9673 - 465 1487 (Fax) - Est. 1981 GIN (Charter), SACI (Pres), WAD, CALI, SASFed, SASA, SAMLF, SCIP (SA Chairman), CITTF, UKPIN, AFIO (OS), IWWL, PRETrust "When you need it done right - first time" ICQ 78711262 755 From: Steve Uhrig Date: Tue Jul 4, 2000 7:16am Subject: Fire in the Hole? Hi Larry, What kind of business might you be in? I have a side business shooting display fireworks. One every night from last Thursday till tonight unless it rains and tonight slips. The name of your firm caught my attention. Saw you on TSCM list. Active night vision will show IR, as will black and white CCD cameras. Color cameras will not because they need an IR cut filter to keep IR from saturating the red. The cheaper the better for a board camera sensitive to IR. Look at the spec. If you saturate with IR (easy on cheap cameras) you will see a heavy vertical line on the image where you have saturated an entire column of pixels. Regards ... Steve ******************************************************************* Steve Uhrig, SWS Security, Maryland (USA) Mfrs of electronic surveillance equip mailto:Steve@s... website http://www.swssec.com tel +1+410-879-4035, fax +1+410-836-1190 "In God we trust, all others we monitor" ******************************************************************* 756 From: Jay Coote Date: Tue Jul 4, 2000 0:00pm Subject: Re: Infrared viewing Larry and the List; I'd like to see what answers come up. I've been using NVGs. These cover the near IR band and some CCD cameras will do the same thing. Of course there may be IR emitters beyond the frequency range (detection ability)of NVGs, CCD cameras and IR detector kits. On this thread, I would like to see the data on the IR frequency bands of NVGs, TSCM IR detector kits and CCD cameras. Jay Coote Los Angeles ---------- > This is my first time using the e-groups for > information. > > Is it possible to purchase glasses that will allow me > to view IR emissions? I am not interested in night > vision equipment. What I was thinking about was > barrier type glasses like the ones I use for my UV > lights. > > Thanks for the help. > > Larry J. Nevin > Fire In The Hole Inc. > ljn35945@y... > > ===== > "EXPECT MORE THAN OTHERS THINK POSSIBLE!" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Lonely? Get Firetalk! > Free, unlimited calls anywhere in the world. > Free voice chat on hundreds of topics. > http://click.egroups.com/1/5477/1/_/507420/_/962686503/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.onelist.com/community/TSCM-L > > or email your subscription request to: > subTSCM-L@t... > =================================================== TSKS > > 757 From: Jay Coote Date: Tue Jul 4, 2000 0:01pm Subject: Re: Research Electronics Equipment Andy and list; I've had *some* luck protecting receiver front-ends with a pair of diodes back-to-back. A higher-value resistor shunt to ground (earth) may also help bleed static. A series blocking cap may keep lower voltages out, but probably not static. Jay Coote ---------- > ----- Original Message ----- > > The OSCOR and CPM-700 make an excellent package to get started with, > > and we have had really good luck with them. > > I'm also very happy with the CPM-700 except that it is prown to blowing the > first stage transistor in the RF probe if you touch a metal object and there > is a static discharge. We have blown 3 that way. > > Our winters are very dry and some carpet/shoe friction combinations cause > serious discharges - you can see the spark even in daylight. We tell our > technicians to touch metal frequently to discharge and obviously try to keep > the probe away from any conducting surface, but.... > > Taking shoes off helps but looks weird to the client. We tried a computer > tech.'s wristband with a long cable to earth but that has it's own > disadvantages - one blow-out was 'cos the tech. didn't realised he'd pulled > the cable out by stepping on it and touched a metal filing cabinette. Well > that's his story. > > I don't have the same problem with the Scanlock. I can only think of > re-fitting the probe's PCB into a bigger box with BNC m & f's, add some > static protection and make up a strip of veroboard straight through the neat > little CPM probe to the antenna. Any better suggestions? > > > Andy Grudko (CEO) - Grudko Wilson Associates (SA) (Pty) Ltd - Crime > investigation & intelligence > Johannesburg - Cape Town - Durban - Pretoria - UK - US - Canada - > Australia - Israel. Agents in 43 countries - www.grudko.com - (+27 11) 465 > 9673 - 465 1487 (Fax) - Est. 1981 > GIN (Charter), SACI (Pres), WAD, CALI, SASFed, SASA, SAMLF, SCIP (SA > Chairman), CITTF, > UKPIN, AFIO (OS), IWWL, PRETrust "When you need it done right - first > time" ICQ 78711262 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Challenged with e-Business quality management? Register for a free > Webinar featuring e-business testing and performance experts. > http://click.egroups.com/1/5935/1/_/507420/_/962711381/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.onelist.com/community/TSCM-L > > or email your subscription request to: > subTSCM-L@t... > =================================================== TSKS > > 758 From: Jay Coote Date: Tue Jul 4, 2000 0:01pm Subject: Re: Infrared viewing Gordon and the list; One test of a unit's ability to see near IR would be to locate some LEDs which have published data on frequency, and use these. Some specialty LED manufacturer must have LEDs which go beyond the usual 850 or 900 nM. Jay Coote ---------- > Welcome to the group. A long explanation to your short question follows. > > The trickery that we use (and love) for seeing fluorescence of stuff in the UV > doesn't work in the IR. > > What is happening in the UV is that light with a short wavelength -- shorter > than 400 nanometers -- is absorbed by stuff then the molecules of the stuff > reradiate light at a longer wavelength. The reason that this longer and > shorter wavelength stuff is important is that shorter wavelength photons > (chunks of light) have higher energy. Since there is always loss in these > transactions the radiated light has a longer wavelength than the incident > light. > > Walking around the room with a UV light quickly shows up things that contain > dyes which absorb UV and efficiently radiate a longer (visible) wavelength > light. Common dye materials are associated with the brightest colors you see. > Coumarin compounds are blue, alkali hydroxides of fluorescein are green and > rhodamine B is orange. We do this because the solvents of common adhesives > will fluoresce. An example is visualizing fresh glue holding a suspicious > block of wood under a desk. > > Since your eyes are only designed to work from about 400 to 700 nanometers > (where most of the sun's energy is) you will not be able to see light much > longer than 700 nanometers in wavelength. This means that since any sort of > IR luminescence will make light that is too long of a wavelength to see. You > have to increase the energy of the chunks (photons) of IR light to make them > visible. This is commonly done with a photocathode/electron > amplifier/phosphor combination or, in some cases, a TV camera that is IR > sensitive. > > I recommend using an IR imager like the ones in the Edmund Scientific catalog. > They can see IR radiation from 1300 nanometer light sources. TV cameras and > night vision equipment is blind past about 950 nanometers. Look for light > sources inside the room (for audio going out via a IR beam) or bright lights > shining on the window (for a IR laser probing the room audio). > > Hope that illuminates the issue. > > Gordon Mitchell, PhD, CISSP > Future Focus, Inc > Woodinville, WA > > Electronic eavesdropping detection & finding clues in computers > (888) BUG-KILR > > > Larry Nevin wrote: > > > This is my first time using the e-groups for > > information. > > > > Is it possible to purchase glasses that will allow me > > to view IR emissions? I am not interested in night > > vision equipment. What I was thinking about was > > barrier type glasses like the ones I use for my UV > > lights. > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > Larry J. Nevin > > Fire In The Hole Inc. > > ljn35945@y... > > > > ===== > > "EXPECT MORE THAN OTHERS THINK POSSIBLE!" > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Kick off your party with Yahoo! 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Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Tue Jul 4, 2000 0:39pm Subject: Re: Research Electronics Equipment Ah, but remember that the more sensitive the front end the more prone it is to static damage, and the more you protect the front end the more of the signal you attenuate and/or distort. I have toasted more then a few MOSFETS in the winter time, and fried more then a few $4,000 LNA's when someone bumped an antenna during a sweep.... it's just a cost of doing business. (Cough... Cough...) I ALWAYS carry an extra set of CPM-700 probes (RF, Magnetic, and IR). I also have an external compact Radio Shack discone (30 - 1300 MHz + a 22 dB preamp) on hand to supplement the OSCOR in case of a poofed antenna platform (plus I have a fetish about throwing up a lot of copper to snag low power signals). I also keep a 2.4 GHz Video Booster Antenna on hand, but would be feel that REI needs to offer a similar version of the antenna suitable for 902-928 MHz, a second for for 1 - 1.5 GHz, and a third for 1.5-2.0 GHz. -jma At 1:11 PM -0400 7/4/00, Jay Coote wrote: >Andy and list; >I've had *some* luck protecting receiver front-ends with a pair of diodes >back-to-back. A higher-value resistor shunt to ground (earth) may also >help bleed static. A series blocking cap may keep lower voltages >out, but probably not static. >Jay Coote > >---------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > The OSCOR and CPM-700 make an excellent package to get started with, > > > and we have had really good luck with them. > > > > I'm also very happy with the CPM-700 except that it is prown to blowing the > > first stage transistor in the RF probe if you touch a metal >object and there > > is a static discharge. We have blown 3 that way. > > > > Our winters are very dry and some carpet/shoe friction combinations cause > > serious discharges - you can see the spark even in daylight. We tell our > > technicians to touch metal frequently to discharge and obviously >try to keep > > the probe away from any conducting surface, but.... > > > > Taking shoes off helps but looks weird to the client. We tried a computer > > tech.'s wristband with a long cable to earth but that has it's own > > disadvantages - one blow-out was 'cos the tech. didn't realised he'd pulled > > the cable out by stepping on it and touched a metal filing cabinette. Well > > that's his story. > > > > I don't have the same problem with the Scanlock. I can only think of > > re-fitting the probe's PCB into a bigger box with BNC m & f's, add some > > static protection and make up a strip of veroboard straight >through the neat > > little CPM probe to the antenna. Any better suggestions? > > > > > > Andy Grudko (CEO) - Grudko Wilson Associates (SA) (Pty) Ltd - Crime > > investigation & intelligence > > Johannesburg - Cape Town - Durban - Pretoria - UK - US - Canada - > > Australia - Israel. Agents in 43 countries - www.grudko.com - (+27 11) 465 > > 9673 - 465 1487 (Fax) - Est. 1981 > > GIN (Charter), SACI (Pres), WAD, CALI, SASFed, SASA, SAMLF, SCIP (SA > > Chairman), CITTF, > > UKPIN, AFIO (OS), IWWL, PRETrust "When you need it done right - first > > time" ICQ 78711262 =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke =================================================================== 760 From: James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Tue Jul 4, 2000 0:42pm Subject: Re: Infrared viewing Just a hint... Try a Watec 902A CCD video camera with a "Near Infrared" Wratten filter... just make sure your lens does not have a IR coating... you will be amazed. -jma At 1:11 PM -0400 7/4/00, Jay Coote wrote: >Larry and the List; >I'd like to see what answers come up. >I've been using NVGs. These cover the near IR band and some CCD cameras will >do the same thing. >Of course there may be IR emitters beyond the frequency range >(detection ability)of >NVGs, CCD cameras and IR detector kits. >On this thread, I would like to see the data on the IR frequency >bands of NVGs, >TSCM IR detector kits and CCD cameras. >Jay Coote >Los Angeles > > >---------- > > This is my first time using the e-groups for > > information. > > > > > Is it possible to purchase glasses that will allow me > > to view IR emissions? I am not interested in night > > vision equipment. What I was thinking about was > > barrier type glasses like the ones I use for my UV > > lights. > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > Larry J. Nevin > > Fire In The Hole Inc. > > ljn35945@y... > > > > ===== > > "EXPECT MORE THAN OTHERS THINK POSSIBLE!" > > =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke =================================================================== 761 From: Gordon Mitchell Date: Tue Jul 4, 2000 2:42pm Subject: Re: Infrared viewing Sorry, no commercial LEDs are available at the long wavelengths that need to be checked. Jay Coote wrote: > Gordon and the list; > One test of a unit's ability to see near IR would be to locate > some LEDs which have published data on frequency, and use > these. Some specialty LED manufacturer must have LEDs which > go beyond the usual 850 or 900 nM. > Jay Coote > > ---------- > > Welcome to the group. A long explanation to your short question follows. > > > > The trickery that we use (and love) for seeing fluorescence of stuff in the UV > > doesn't work in the IR. > > > > What is happening in the UV is that light with a short wavelength -- shorter > > than 400 nanometers -- is absorbed by stuff then the molecules of the stuff > > reradiate light at a longer wavelength. The reason that this longer and > > shorter wavelength stuff is important is that shorter wavelength photons > > (chunks of light) have higher energy. Since there is always loss in these > > transactions the radiated light has a longer wavelength than the incident > > light. > > > > Walking around the room with a UV light quickly shows up things that contain > > dyes which absorb UV and efficiently radiate a longer (visible) wavelength > > light. Common dye materials are associated with the brightest colors you see. > > Coumarin compounds are blue, alkali hydroxides of fluorescein are green and > > rhodamine B is orange. We do this because the solvents of common adhesives > > will fluoresce. An example is visualizing fresh glue holding a suspicious > > block of wood under a desk. > > > > Since your eyes are only designed to work from about 400 to 700 nanometers > > (where most of the sun's energy is) you will not be able to see light much > > longer than 700 nanometers in wavelength. This means that since any sort of > > IR luminescence will make light that is too long of a wavelength to see. You > > have to increase the energy of the chunks (photons) of IR light to make them > > visible. This is commonly done with a photocathode/electron > > amplifier/phosphor combination or, in some cases, a TV camera that is IR > > sensitive. > > > > I recommend using an IR imager like the ones in the Edmund Scientific catalog. > > They can see IR radiation from 1300 nanometer light sources. TV cameras and > > night vision equipment is blind past about 950 nanometers. Look for light > > sources inside the room (for audio going out via a IR beam) or bright lights > > shining on the window (for a IR laser probing the room audio). > > > > Hope that illuminates the issue. > > > > Gordon Mitchell, PhD, CISSP > > Future Focus, Inc > > Woodinville, WA > > > > Electronic eavesdropping detection & finding clues in computers > > (888) BUG-KILR > > > > > > Larry Nevin wrote: > > > > > This is my first time using the e-groups for > > > information. > > > > > > Is it possible to purchase glasses that will allow me > > > to view IR emissions? I am not interested in night > > > vision equipment. What I was thinking about was > > > barrier type glasses like the ones I use for my UV > > > lights. > > > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > > > Larry J. Nevin > > > Fire In The Hole Inc. > > > ljn35945@y... > > > > > > ===== > > > "EXPECT MORE THAN OTHERS THINK POSSIBLE!" > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > > > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Lonely? 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Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Tue Jul 4, 2000 6:24pm Subject: Suspect Denies Terrorist Links July 04, 2000 at 11:02:47 PDT Suspect Denies Terrorist Links http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/w-eur/2000/jul/04/070400499.html ASSOCIATED PRESS LAUSANNE, Switzerland (AP) -- A Swiss-Lebanese man at the center of a bungled Israeli spy operation said Tuesday that the Islamic center he ran was set up for religious purposes and was not linked to anti-Israeli activities. On the second day of the trial of an Israeli Mossad agent caught in a February 1998 espionage attempt, lawyers for the Swiss government and the agent probed for links between Abdallah el-Zein and terrorist masters in Lebanon and Iran. But a Swiss police expert testified that investigators had been unable to connect the worldwide network of Ahl El-Beit centers to Hezbollah, the Iranian-backed guerrilla group that fought to oust Israeli troops from southern Lebanon. "The suspicion exists," said Hans Knaus of Switzerland's federal police. "But we have not been able to confirm it." Other police officers described Tuesday how they caught the Israeli agent, identified as Issac Bental, and four colleagues installing bugging equipment after midnight in the basement of an apartment building where el-Zein had lived near the capital, Bern. Police were called in when neighbors reported strange noises. Rudolf Leuenberger of Bern state police said he and his partner found Bental and two other agents in the basement and said there were enough suspicious elements, including identical stamps in their Israeli passports, that police decided to take them in for questioning. Two other agents keeping watch outside were also questioned. Only Bental was arrested, because he was holding a bag with tools to install the wiretap. Contained in two hollowed-out boards about four feet long, the bugging system included a cellular phone, a timer and 24 batteries. The phone was set up to dial a recording center every time the telephone in el-Zein's apartment was taken off the hook. "It could have worked for years," said Victor Ruefenacht, the federal police technology expert. El-Zein told the court that the Ahl El-Beit center he ran organized soccer teams, promoted friendship and sent money to orphans in Lebanon and Iraq, but its main purpose was to encourage Islamic worship. "Of course there are other activities but the main purpose is religious," he told the Federal Criminal Court. Bental said Monday that he had been told el-Zein had sent people on terrorist missions to Israel. El-Zein denies the allegations and has settled a separate suit against Bental out of court. The Mossad agent's lawyer, Ralph M. Zloczower, asked el-Zein about his contacts with figures prominent in Ahl El-Beit, including Saddredine Fadlallah, head of the organization's center in Paris. El-Zein acknowledged meeting Fadlallah, but said he didn't know Fadlallah is the son of the Lebanese Grand Ayatollah Sheik Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, widely believed to be the spiritual guide of Hezbollah. Bental, who is being tried under a pseudonym, is believed to be the first admitted Mossad agent to go on trial in a foreign country. Bental has said that the three charges against him are correct - that he acted illegally for a foreign country, conducted political espionage and repeatedly used false foreign identity documents. If found guilty, he could face a maximum sentence of 20 years imprisonment. Lawyers are to make closing arguments on Thursday, and sentencing is expected Friday. =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke =================================================================== 763 From: James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Tue Jul 4, 2000 6:32pm Subject: Swiss court hears charges against Israeli secret agent Swiss court hears charges against Israeli secret agent http://www.irna.com/newshtm/eng/14004258.htm Spy-trial Vienna, July 4, IRNA -- An Israeli secret agent has gone on trial in Switzerland charged with carrying out illegal acts against a foreign state and using a false passport, Swiss Radio International reported on Monday. The Federal Court has allowed the man to stand trial under a pseudonym. The Mossad agent identified himself as "Isaac Bental", saying through an interpreter that he could not give the court his real name because it would jeopardise his personal safety. The Federal Court has allowed him to stand trial under a false name in a concession to the Israeli authorities, who want to prevent information about the secret service, Mossad, from entering the public domain. He faces charges of carrying out illegal acts against a foreign state, and of entering Switzerland using a false passport. The hearing is thought to be the first in which a Mossad agent has gone on trial outside Israel. "Bental" was caught red-handed in an apartment building near Berne in February 1998, while trying to tap the phone of a Swiss-Lebanese citizen, thought to have links with the Hezbollah guerrilla group. Swiss police also detained four other Mossad agents but later released them. Bental remained in detention after he was found to be in possession of sophisticated electronic listening equipment as well as several different passports. The Swiss authorities later allowed him to return home after the Israeli government paid bail of SFr 3 million and promised he would return to Switzerland for trial. In court Bental confirmed he was still working for Mossad but refused to answer questions about the agency's activities. He testified he had joined Mossad for idealistic reasons, and said he had never been involved in any operations in which people being harmed or killed. He said he had received orders from Israel to wiretap the telephone of a Hezbollah faction. "We wanted to find out what Hezbollah was doing in Switzerland," he said. At the time of his arrest, the incident led to a severe straining of diplomatic relations between Israel and Switzerland. The Swiss authorities demanded an apology from the Israelis, and this was grudgingly forthcoming. But the Swiss were also anxious to avoid a row with Israel because of the controversy over Switzerland's handling of dormant bank accounts belonging to Holocaust victims. At the time, the Swiss government and Swiss banks were involved in tortuous negotiations with the World Jewish Congress over a financial settlement . There remains a possibility that the Mossad agent may claim diplomatic immunity. If that happens, the trial will collapse, since foreign nationals with diplomatic immunity cannot be tried before a Swiss court. The case has also raised difficult questions about the effectiveness of Switzerland's various police forces. It is still not clear who was responsible for releasing the other four Mossad agents. One rumour lays the blame at the door of the Swiss federal police, saying they ordered their cantonal colleagues to let the agents go to prevent a diplomatic row with Israel. Another rumour says the cantonal police did not receive information early enough from the federal branch about the true identity of the four, and therefore had no option but to release them. =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke =================================================================== 764 From: Jinques West Date: Tue Jul 4, 2000 3:57pm Subject: Re: Bug Sweep FAQ 2000 Here are a few more things to consider,, My instincts tell me something is wrong, should I look more carefully or is this just my imagination? Should I trust long time employees? If I think I am surveilled should I call the authorities? What kind of response should I expect if I call the authorities? What kind of potential problems or damage could being surveilled pose for me? How do I prevent this sort of thing? Do I have any legal recourse if tapping is discovered? (Before you answer remember the way the authorities react) Should I tell anyone else before I call an expert? How do I convince my banker that I need to spend this much based on a suspicion? What do I do if I catch someone in the process of bugging my place? Why should anyone want to bug a small business anyway? "James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng" wrote: > I am compiling a list of at least 100 of the more common questions > that those of use in TSCM hear from people. Once I have at least 100 > questions I will go though and answer each with a one of two > paragraph non technical answer and post the entire list to my website. > > The questions are limited to common non technical issues asked by > laymen which have been posted to my "guestbook" over the last six > years. I can only come up with a small number of the more common and > relevant questions, and would really appreciate it if other list > members could share a few suggestions. > > I am looking for questions specifically dealing with TSCM, bug > sweeps, eavesdropping questions, and communications security. I plan > to avoid computer security questions, physical security, and related > materials for the time being. > > The FAQ will be directed towards a completely non-technical audience, > and hopefully it will benefit the entire industry by educating our > clients on the subject matter. I added a few of the more colorful > questions from people with mental problems, not so that we can all > snicker at them, but to foster some type of helpful answer that we > can offer them (via the FAQ) to gently nudge them toward the > appropriate medical treatment they require. Of course some of these > colorful questions are simply based on a misunderstanding of > technology. > > Please feel free to respond publicly or privately. > > In case anybody is interested; My goal is to enhance the quality of > our profession, and to enlightened our clients so that in return they > will understand the benefits of our services... and as a result we > will keep eavesdroppers on the run. > > -jma > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Bug Sweep - Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) > by James M. Atkinson > Granite Island Group > > version 4 July 2000 > > 1. How common is bugging, wire taping, and related eavesdropping. > > 2. How hard is it for someone to bug a telephone > > 3. I have noticed for awhile that my phone has been clicking as if > someone has been picking up the receiver. One day I picked up the > phone while it makes this clicking noise and there was no dial tone. > I did this a few times have been able to do the same thing. Is this > a sign of some sort of phone tapping? What can I do? > > 4. I was told by a friend that if you called this phone # > (xxx-xxx-xxx) it was used by corporations to check phone lines. I > was told that if you get a clear tone, your phone was not bugged. > Ever heard of this?? > > 5. Back in the sixties I remember reading about a special number you > could call that would tell you if your phone was bugged. Is there a > special 800 number that I can call that will tell me if my phone is > bugged. > > 6. What is an Infinity Transmitter or Harmonica Bug > > 7. How much would it cost to check my phone for bugs > > 8. I...I am certain that my spouse of 20 yrs is having an affair. How > do I tap is cell phone? Is it possible? And is it legal? > > 9. How much would it cost to check my office or home for bugs > > 10. How do I contact someone in my area to arrange to do a bug sweep for me > > 11. I was wondering how you can tell if your phone is tapped. Every > time i call some one it calls my house back with a series of loud > pulses. also it will call my house for no reason with those same > series of beeps. what do you think > > 12. The only realistic way to tell if your phone is taped is to > engage a TSCM person to check it out for you. > > 13. I would like to by a telephone eavesdropping device, how much > would you charge > > 14. I would like to buy a tracking device so I can follow my boyfriend > > 15. I would like to eavesdrop on my boyfriends cellular telephone and > would like to know if it is legal, and how can I do it. > > 16. I want to bug my bosses office. > > 17. Are Cellular Telephones secure > > 18. Are PCS Telephones secure > > 19. Are GSM telephones secure > > 20. Are Cordless Phones secure > > 21. Are Pagers and Beepers secure > > 22. Why should I always turn my cellular telephone off when I am not > specifically making or expecting a phone call. > > 23. What are the more common ways that someone can follow my vehicle > > 24. I want to buy a small amount of inexpensive equipment so I can > perform by own bug sweeps, what do you recommend. > > 25. I am a private investigator (or security consultant) and would > like to start offer bug sweep services to my clients > > 26. I work for a company and we are interested in obtain some basic > equipment to provide an in-house TSCM capability. > > 27. I am a bodyguard or executive protection specialist and would > like to add a limited bug sweep capabilities to my protective detail > and support functions. > > 28. Do you have any info on building your own FM transmitter that > enables you to transmit a voice further than 300ft? > > 29. I have talked to a number of people through email and then > follow-up telephone conversations. These people indicate that there > is the existence of a communication system that, as hard as it is to > believe, can transmit information directly to the human body. It has > variously been termed energy directed audiograms, mental telepathy > system, artificial intelligence network, and remote viewing. > > 30. I am a government guinea pig under the influence of > bioelectronics, radio and microwaves radiation, ultrasonic > bombardment and electronic destruction of memory and intense mid > control. > > 31. Should I can the FBI if I think that I have found a bug > > 32. Should I call the FBI if I think I am bugged > > 33. I would like to buy a phone scrambler, can you help me. > > 34. I am hearing voices beamed to my by the CIA who is operating > under the authority of the federal mind control courts at area 51. To > this day hear the voices in my head and i 100% believe the voices to > come from an intelligence agency. they are using some sort of > technology to beam messages into my mind > > 35. Someone is harassing me by beaming microwave and/or Ultrasonic > energy at me, I am having really bad headaches, my teeth hurt, and I > can not sleep. > > 36. Can you send me a hardcopy catalog of eavesdropping equipment > > 37. Several phone trucks were seen down the block. my phone seems to > have a delay and echo in it, my scanners are not working, and there > is a shadow going by the back window > > 38. I was wondering about the range of the VHF crystal controlled > mini bug being advertised in magazines which boast a 1/2 mile range. > Do they really give a 1/2 mile range under normal conditions? What > kind of range should I expect in a residential area? > > 39. Have you ever came across the type of bug the soviets used away > back to eavedrop on the US embassy in Moscow. The whole thing used no > power, it depended on excitation from microwaves to resonate it, the > resonant cavity was constructed as such to allow voice frequency > sound to modulate it resonant frequency . What they would do was beam > a signal at it and have the thing tuned just slightly off of > resonance and then pick up its "new" reflected and modulated signal > at another location. > > 40. I was wondering where does one buy the bugs. > > 41. I would like to obtain plans to build some bugs, can you please > send me some designs. > > 42. Is PGP a good email encryption program? > > 43. Is there any way to make cordless phones more secure? > > 44. I would like to buy a scrambled telephone, which is the best on to buy. > > 45. I have been experiencing a constant non-directional tone in > two-different indoor locations within a couple of miles of each > other. The tone I would guess at being about 1500 Hz and it only > lasts for about 30 seconds to a minute. Any suggestions you have on > this would be much appreciated as I have now dismissed this as a > one-off. Thank you very much, I hope you can suggest what this could > be. > > 46. I am interested in the bumper beeper thing.. need to purchase > equipment immediately serious inquiry... thanks for reply soon... > > 47. if REMOBS can be detected and if so by which method. > > 48. is there any books or manual available that show Hookswitch > bypass methods and modifications? > > 49. Is there an easy way to determine whether a home is being > subjected to electron eavesdropping. I need to determine this before > going to the authorities with an accusation. Is there an equipment > item that can be easily used to detect electronic surveillance? The > situation is real and I am not paranoid. I do not want to contact > the sheriff with an accusation that is unfounded. Can you help me by > providing information about such equipment? > > 50. Can you suggest a source for the ultrasonic devices that can > thwart microphones? > > 51. Are there any pocket-sized detectors that can alert one to the > presence of a tape recorder's bia oscillator? > > 52. I bought a voice scrambler for a thousand dollars, but people are > still able to hear the things I say over my cordless telephone, what > is wrong. > > 53. I just bought one of those fancy 2.4 GHz spread spectrum > telephone but I think my neighbor can still eavesdrop on the signal, > is this possible? > > 54. The sales person at the cellular telephone place told me that > people can not eavesdrop on the new telephones, is this try, and if > not why is the guy lying to me. > > 55. What percentage of sweeps actually turn up anything > > 56. Any recommendations on constructing a true faraday cage or bug proof room? > > 57. We are looking for an employee engaging in illegal eavesdropping > who will probably use cheap radio Shack or Spy Shop type of > transmitters , What equipment would suggest to detect this type of > device at several feet, assuming that there is not much background > noise? The equipment would need to be suitable for people with a > non-technical background to use, and operate with little or no > training. > > 58. Our company has provided a bug in their own Boardroom. It is a > wireless microphone that is part of a speakerphone. When they use it, > they set it on the table and turn it on. When not is use, it is then > plugged into the charger. I've turned the thing over and looked on > the bottom. There is a label which say 174 240, and sure enough that > is the frequency I can pick up on my scanner. I found out that for > some reason they never turn the transmitter off, and that I can pick > up the signal 24 hours a day from outside the building. How many > companies have a problem like this, and what can I do to point out > how dangerous this situation is. > > 59. Do those $50 boxes you hook into your phone line to detect a tap > really work? > > 60. I'm doing research paper for a class on security and such and > this particular area seemed to intrigue me the most. I've run > across references to the Van Eck experiments aired on BBC television > back around 1990 and how the various alphabet agencies in the US > didn't quite like this demonstration.... but for the most part, I > find very little information about a topic > > 61. How much does a working telephone bug cost, and how does it work? > > 62. Last year FBI agents abducted by cat and implanted it with a > covert video camera. Now the cat follows me around everywhere I go > and transmits video images back to the FBI. What can I do to make > this stop. > > 63. ??? > > =================================================================== > Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? > =================================================================== > James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 > Granite Island Group > 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ > Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com > =================================================================== > "...any sufficiently advanced technology is > indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke > =================================================================== > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > e-Business Quality Management- Your Site's Success Depends on It. > Register today for an eye opening experience. > http://click.egroups.com/1/5934/1/_/507420/_/962685265/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.onelist.com/community/TSCM-L > > or email your subscription request to: > subTSCM-L@t... > =================================================== TSKS 765 From: Thomas H. Jones Date: Wed Jul 5, 2000 9:02am Subject: RE: Research Electronics Equipment When we first developed the CPM, we knew that ESD would be a problem if care is not taken to avoid the problem. We could have added additional circuitry to address the issue, but this would have lowered the sensitivity of the unit. However, about three years ago we modified the design of the CPM probe antenna to meet CE mark requirements, and now we offer two versions of the probe. The normal version is unchanged, the new version has an antenna that is basically rubber coated to protect against ESD. There is slight loss in performance with the new antenna, and for this reason, we usually do not ship this version unless requested. But, most people find the performance more than adequate for a broadband receiver. If you would like this new probe, please contact us directly. Best Regards, Tom Jones General Manager REI -----Original Message----- From:A Grudko [SMTP:agrudko@i...] Sent:Wednesday, July 05, 2000 8:16 AM To:TSCM-L@egroups.com Subject:Re: [TSCM-L] Research Electronics Equipment ----- Original Message ----- > The OSCOR and CPM-700 make an excellent package to get started with, > and we have had really good luck with them. I'm also very happy with the CPM-700 except that it is prown to blowing the first stage transistor in the RF probe if you touch a metal object and there is a static discharge. We have blown 3 that way. Our winters are very dry and some carpet/shoe friction combinations cause serious discharges - you can see the spark even in daylight. We tell our technicians to touch metal frequently to discharge and obviously try to keep the probe away from any conducting surface, but.... Taking shoes off helps but looks weird to the client. We tried a computer tech.'s wristband with a long cable to earth but that has it's own disadvantages - one blow-out was 'cos the tech. didn't realised he'd pulled the cable out by stepping on it and touched a metal filing cabinette. Well that's his story. I don't have the same problem with the Scanlock. I can only think of re-fitting the probe's PCB into a bigger box with BNC m & f's, add some static protection and make up a strip of veroboard straight through the neat little CPM probe to the antenna. Any better suggestions? Andy Grudko (CEO) - Grudko Wilson Associates (SA) (Pty) Ltd - Crime investigation & intelligence Johannesburg - Cape Town - Durban - Pretoria - UK - US - Canada - Australia - Israel. 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Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Wed Jul 5, 2000 4:18pm Subject: Witness testifies in Israeli spy trial Tuesday, 4 July, 2000, 20:54 GMT 21:54 UK Witness testifies in Israeli spy trial http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_819000/819581.stm The target of a bungled Israeli spy operation in Switzerland has been giving evidence on the second day of the trial of an Israeli secret agent. The agent, known under the cover name of Isaac Bental, was captured in February 1998 trying to install a telephone bug in an apartment block in the Swiss capital, Berne. Mr Bental said the target, a Swiss-Lebanese man who lived in an apartment in the building, was a suspected member of a group that supported attacks against Israelis. But the witness, Abdallah el-Zein, told the court on Tuesday that the Islamic center he ran in Switzerland was set up for religious purposes. Car salesman He was suspected by the Israeli intelligence agency, Mossad, of having links with the Lebanese Islamic organisation Hezbollah - a charge Mr el-Zein denies. He acknowledged links with what he called a religious and cultural centre in Berne, which collects money for Iraqi and Lebanese orphans. The man, who became a Swiss national after marrying a Swiss woman, is currently a car salesman. The Israeli agent has already pleaded guilty to charges of installing an illegal listening device in a botched mission that sparked a diplomatic incident between Switzerland and Israel. Bugging equipment The operation caused deep embarrassment in Israel and prompted the head of the secret service, Mossad, to resign. It is not clear why Mossad decided to work independently of Swiss police in the operation. On Tuesday, police officers described in court how they caught the agent and four colleagues installing bugging equipment after midnight in the basement of the building where Mr el-Zein lived. One police officer showed the court the bugging equipment, which he said was capable of functioning for years. On Monday, Mr Bental said Mossad had told him that Mr El-Zein had sent people on terrorist missions to Israel. Mr el-Zein was asked in court whether he could shed any light on anti-Israeli attacks such as the July 1994 bombing of a Jewish community center in Argentina, that killed 86 people. He denied any knowledge of such incidents. The hearing is expected to last until Friday. =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke =================================================================== 767 From: James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Wed Jul 5, 2000 4:21pm Subject: Policeman left details of phone tap on train Policeman left details of phone tap on train http://www.independent.co.uk/news/UK/This_Britain/2000-07/tap050700.shtml By Fran Abrams, Westminster Correspondent 5 July 2000 A police officer was disciplined after accidentally leaving details of a secret telephone bugging operation on a train, it was disclosed last night. The log of the operation by the National Criminal Intelligence Service, which targets some of the country's most dangerous criminals, was recovered by British Transport Police. The Commissioner for Interception of Communications, Lord Nolan, said in his annual report, published yesterday that the incident in March last year, represented a "very serious failing" by the officer concerned. The police found that the envelope containing the log had been opened although the material inside was intact and there was no evidence that it had been read. The officer, who was not a member of NCIS, had filled in the log sheet with details of the bugging operation which were "correctly sanitized and coded in accordance with established practice" and the operation itself was not compromised. The incident was one of a series of mainly technical errors recorded by Lord Nolan in the execution of warrants issued for the interception of telephone calls and letters. =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke =================================================================== 768 From: Mike Dever Date: Wed Jul 5, 2000 2:29am Subject: Various Subjects James and other members of the group, 1. Covert Video Surveillance: There has been some recent discussion about the legality of covert video surveillance. All Australian jurisdictions (federal, state and territory) have existing laws prohibiting the manufacture, sale, possession, use, etc of 'listening devices' however the law has been silent about video or optical surveillance until recently. At least one state here in Australia (Victoria) has enacted legislation prohibiting covert video surveillance without a warrant from a court. The Victorian legislation is called the 'Surveillance Devices Act, 1999' and is available at http://www.dms.dpc.vic.gov.au/sb/index.html. It is expected that all Australian states and territories will soon have similar legislation. 2. Detection of IR Emitting devices: In addition to the Watec Model WAT-902A, the Ikegami ICD-42 series monochrome cameras also have a very good IR response. The spectral response of the ICD43E for example extends to beyond 1100nm (without the IR cut filter) 3. Bug Sweep FAQ 2000 Just the other day a prospective client asked me if it was possible to intercept fax or e-mail communications and read them. Apparently they asked their 'security company' who told them that it was impossible to intercept fax and e-mail transmissions. So perhaps a question for the FAQ list could be: "Can fax messages be intercepted?" Regards Michael J. Dever CPP Senior Engineer Dever Clark & Associates Canberra Australia Telephone: +6254 5337 Telefax: +6278 4020 E-mail: deverclark@b... 769 From: James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Wed Jul 5, 2000 7:06pm Subject: AC Line Impedance When performing TSCM services are you calculating your AC line impedance as 10, 12.5, 15 ohms, or some other value. -jma =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke =================================================================== 770 From: James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Wed Jul 5, 2000 9:22pm Subject: Mossad agents threaten strike over spy's Swiss trial Mossad agents threaten strike over spy's Swiss trial http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/07/06/timfgnmid01001.html FROM SAM KILEY IN JERUSALEM MEMBERS of Israel's Mossad spy agency threatened to down tools yesterday in protest at the country's decision to send an agent to stand trial in Switzerland. The image of Mossad has taken a battering in recent years after a bungled Swiss wire-tapping operation and an assassination attempt against a Hamas leader that ended in a fiasco. Now agents have said that they are angry with their spymasters, who sent "David Bental", whose real name is being witheld from the Swiss authorities, to stand trial in Berne. He was caught in the basement of a flat near Berne trying to bug the home of a a Lebanese-born car salesmen whom the Israelis suspected of having links with Hezbollah. Israel Radio said yesterday that Ephraim Halevy, the head of Mossad, had been told that his agents felt that sending "Mr Bental" for trial was a betrayal of trust. Agents also complained that they were suffering from low morale because of the drop in the number of operations and the rejection of other operations by Ehud Barak, the Israeli Prime Minister. In court, Swiss police officers described how they caught "Mr Bental" and four colleagues installing listening devices in the home of the car dealer. Only "Mr Bental" was charged because he had a bag containing bugging equipment: a cell phone connected to 24 batteries, which was to have been plugged into Abdallah el-Zein's telephone line and would have called a recording centre every time that he picked up his handset. =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke =================================================================== 771 From: James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Thu Jul 6, 2000 2:49pm Subject: Discovery Notification Procedures I've gotten quite a few questions regarding "Notification Procedures" so I though it was time to post something to the list. First, as a fact of law when you uncover a illegal eavesdropping devices, or evidence of illegal eavesdropping activity, espionage, bugging, wiretapping, and so on you have a legal responsibility to notify appropriate law enforcement which has jurisdiction. Failure to report a crime or suspected crime may cause the words "Obstruction of Justice" to appear next to your name on an indictment. Second, The issue of "jurisdiction" is a very touchy one. As a rule your safest bet is to make always your report initial in writing to at least one FEDERAL law enforcement agency, and optionally to one local law enforcement agency. Third, You want someone in law enforcement to get out to the location and take control of the premises is quickly as possible. Fourth, It is CRITICAL that you collect as much documentation as quickly as humanly possible as the bug may vanish in all the commotion once LE gets involved. Fifth, Law Enforcement will (or should) ALWAYS suspect that the person who found the bug is also the person who planted the bug. You had better make damn sure that you "are as pure as the freshly laid snow", and that NOTHING in your possession (or at your office) could be even remotely considered an eavesdropping device. Sixth, When you take photographs of the find be sure to get INSTANT pictures in three copies (one for you, one for LE, and one for your clients), and be sure to sign each and add a date and time (these are your insurance pictures). Next, take a series of 35mm photographs with a "Normal" 50 or 60 mm lens and use COLOR print film (as slow speed as possible, I prefer 25 or 100 speed). Be sure to use a tripod and off camera flash, and stop-down to the minimum aperture so the photographs will be tack sharp when blown up. If you have time supplement the color photographs with a set of black and white picture shot on PANCHROMATIC film (as slow as possible, I prefer 50 speed or Tech-Pan). Take great care not to disturb anything that might be considered evidence. Don't rely on digital pictures only, but burn some film (LE folks, judges, and juries love big 30*40 prints). Seventh, record every little detail on paper, and remember that you will need to sign , date, and time stamp each page. Remember to make a photocopy as you will usually give all of your originals to the LE person who comes out (be sure to get a property receipt... no property receipt, no evidence). Personally I have a 150+ page discovery checklist that goes into virtually all conceivable parameters of a discovery, and tracks all notifications, etc. (I also bring along some of my own property receipts in case they forget theirs). Eighth, This would be a good time to point out that you should make copies of everything, but that it may be wise to "forget" about these copies (and your insurance pictures) when you hand over the original documents. Funny things have been known to happen in property rooms, and it may end up being "your word against theirs", so CYA, CYA,CYA. Ninth, Always assume that there is more then the bug or bugs you found, and assume that someone will attempt removal or at least some type of countermeasure against your discovery. Tenth, It is critical that you consider that what you have found is hostile, AND illegal until proven otherwise. AND THE MOST CRITICAL!!! Eleventh, Our job is to ensure that an area that we are inspecting is reasonably free of eavesdropping devices or technical weaknesses. We are never engaged to find the bug, but to ensure that no bug is present. It is not our job to "investigate" who did it, but to scientifically document our find and then to turn the case over to someone in law enforcement for investigation. ================================================ Assorted Ramblings: My personal preference is to "preload" a notification form letter on a laptop with all of the location information, client information, and so on. I set it up so it can launch a fax off to the local FBI office in seconds (sent to the complaint duty officer). I also set up a similar form letter with contact information (via fax) for any other local LE agency that may also have interest in case I find something (State Police, Local Sheriff, City Police, etc). I also indicate that this is simply an "Initial Notification Letter" and that there will be more details to follow in a second fax and phone call. I then go down my discovery check list, key-in the appropriate details on the find and squirt a fax (with more details) to the appropriate agencies as soon as possible. This way the paper trail on the find is started immediately. I then follow up with a phone call about 5-10 minutes after I've confirmed that all of the faxes have gone though. Once that has been completed the rest of the discovery list is filled out. Photographs of the find are taken (both 35mm and Polaroid instant "insurance pics") and as much information written down and documented in as much depth and detail as possible. Be sure to observe the behavior of your contact and their employees when you tell them about your discovery as this often proves quite interesting (it may be THEIR bug). The area is then secured, and the law enforcement agencies re-contacted (and pushed) to get someone to "take control" of the area prior to your departure. Usually the LE folks will bitch and moan, but it is critically important to get someone (anyone) to come visit the location, and at least take down a written incident report or complaint (be sure that YOU get a copy). Also be sure to get the name, badge number, and contact information of the people who come out (be sure to record the plate number and/or car number). If someone in law enforcement claims that the device "is one of theirs" simply ask for the docket/case number, the court who issued the warrant, and the names/phone of the judge so you can get a protective order issued. If there is Court or Judges name given and no protective order is issued, then there is no legitimate warrant, in turn the cop is probably violating the felony, and you need to immediately talk to the FBI. (A protective order is a court order that will formally command you to "keep your mouth shut" regarding the discovery or activities involving a legitimate COURT ordered bugging. You should ask for this to be issued to protect you, and most judges will be quite happy to issue one as they understand the ethical position you are in.) If in fact you obtain good reason to belive that it is a legitimate COURT ORDERED activity then politely and immediately refund all of your clients money (with a little extra something for their trouble), and find some way to gracefully back out of the assignment (feigning an equipment malfunction, theft of gear, or a physical ailment are all good excuses). Just remember that when you find a bug keep your mouth shut, document everything, preserve evidence, officially notify law enforcement, and be ready to answer some awkward questions. -jma =================================== By the way, here are the FBI Offices in major 56 U.S. cities. I suggest that you copy and past them into your discovery checklist. Federal Bureau of Investigation 200 McCarty Avenue Albany, New York 12209 (518) 465-7551 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 300 415 Silver Avenue, Southwest Albuquerque, New Mexico 87102 (505) 224-2000 Federal Bureau of Investigation 101 East Sixth Avenue Anchorage, Alaska 99501-2524 (907) 258-5322 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 400 2635 Century Parkway, Northeast Atlanta, Georgia 30345-3112 (404) 679-9000 Federal Bureau of Investigation 7142 Ambassador Road Baltimore, Maryland 21244-2754 (410) 265-8080 Federal Bureau of Investigation Room 1400 2121 8th. Avenue N. Birmingham, Alabama 35203-2396 (205) 326-6166 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 600 One Center Plaza Boston, Massachusetts 02108 (617) 742-5533 Federal Bureau of Investigation One FBI Plaza Buffalo, New York 14202-2698 (716) 856-7800 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 900, Wachovia Building 400 South Tyron Street Charlotte, North Carolina 28285-0001 (704) 377-9200 Federal Bureau of Investigation Room 905 E.M. Dirksen Federal Office Building 219 South Dearborn Street Chicago, Illinois 60604-1702 (312) 431-1333 Federal Bureau of Investigation Room 9000 550 Main Street Cincinnati, Ohio 45202-8501 (513) 421-4310 Federal Bureau of Investigation Room 3005 Federal Office Building 1240 East 9th Street Cleveland, Ohio 44199-9912 (216) 522-1400 Federal Bureau of Investigation 151 Westpark Blvd Columbia, South Carolina 29210-3857 (803) 551-4200 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 300 1801 North Lamar Dallas, Texas 75202-1795 (214) 720-2200 Federal Bureau of Investigation Federal Office Building, Room 1823 1961 Stout Street, 18th. Floor Denver, Colorado 80294-1823 (303) 629-7171 Federal Bureau of Investigation 26th. Floor, P. V. McNamara FOB 477 Michigan Avenue Detroit, Michigan 48226 (313) 965-2323 Federal Bureau of Investigation 660 S. Mesa Hills Drive El Paso, Texas 79912-5533 (915) 832-5000 Federal Bureau of Investigation Room 4-230, Kalanianaole FOB 300 Ala Moana Boulevard Honolulu, Hawaii 96850-0053 (808) 521-1411 Federal Bureau of Investigation 2500 East TC Jester Houston, Texas 77008-1300 (713) 693-5000 Federal Bureau of Investigation Room 679, FOB 575 North Pennsylvania Street Indianapolis, Indiana 46204-1585 (317) 639-3301 Federal Bureau of Investigation Room 1553, FOB 100 West Capitol Street Jackson, Mississippi 39269-1601 (601) 948-5000 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 200 7820 Arlington Expressway Jacksonville, Florida 32211-7499 (904) 721-1211 Federal Bureau of Investigation 1300 Summit Kansas City, Missouri 64105-1362 (816) 512-8200 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 600, John J. Duncan FOB 710 Locust Street Knoxville, Tennessee 37902-2537 (423) 544-0751 Federal Bureau of Investigation John Lawrence Bailey Building 700 East Charleston Boulevard Las Vegas, Nevada 89104-1545 (702) 385-1281 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 200 Two Financial Centre 10825 Financial Centre Parkway Little Rock, Arkansas 72211-3552 (501) 221-9100 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 1700, FOB 11000 Wilshire Boulevard Los Angeles, California 90024-3672 (310) 477-6565 Federal Bureau of Investigation Room 500 600 Martin Luther King Jr. Place Louisville, Kentucky 40202-2231 (502) 583-3941 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 3000, Eagle Crest Bldg. 225 North Humphreys Blvd. Memphis, Tennessee 38120-2107 (901) 747-4300 Federal Bureau of Investigation 16320 Northwest Second Avenue North Miami Beach, Florida 33169-6508 (305) 944-9101 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 600 330 East Kilbourn Avenue Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53202-6627 (414) 276-4684 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 1100 111 Washington Avenue, South Minneapolis, Minnesota 55401-2176 (612) 376-3200 Federal Bureau of Investigation One St. Louis Centre 1 St. Louis Street, 3rd. Floor Mobile, Alabama 36602-3930 (334) 438-3674 Federal Bureau of Investigation 1 Gateway Center, 22nd. Floor Newark, New Jersey 07102-9889 (973) 792-3000 Federal Bureau of Investigation Room 535, FOB 150 Court Street New Haven, Connecticut 06510-2020 (203) 777-6311 Federal Bureau of Investigation 2901 Leon C. Simon Dr. New Orleans, Louisiana 70126 (504) 816-3000 Federal Bureau of Investigation 26 Federal Plaza, 23rd. Floor New York, New York 10278-0004 (212) 384-1000 Federal Bureau of Investigation 150 Corporate Boulevard Norfolk, Virginia 23502-4999 (757) 455-0100 Federal Bureau of Investigation 3301 West Memorial Drive Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 73134 (405) 290-7770 Federal Bureau of Investigation 10755 Burt Street Omaha, Nebraska 68114-2000 (402) 493-8688 Federal Bureau of Investigation 8th. Floor William J. Green Jr. FOB 600 Arch Street Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19106 (215) 418-4000 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 400 201 East Indianola Avenue Phoenix, Arizona 85012-2080 (602) 279-5511 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 300 U.S. Post Office Building 700 Grant Street Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15219-1906 (412) 471-2000 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 400, Crown Plaza Building 1500 Southwest 1st Avenue Portland, Oregon 97201-5828 (503) 224-4181 Federal Bureau of Investigation 111 Greencourt Road Richmond, Virginia 23228-4948 (804) 261-1044 Federal Bureau of Investigation 4500 Orange Grove Avenue Sacramento, California 95841-4205 (916) 481-9110 Federal Bureau of Investigation 2222 Market Street St. Louis, Missouri 63103-2516 (314) 231-4324 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 1200, 257 Towers Bldg. 257 East, 200 South Salt Lake City, Utah 84111-2048 (801) 579-1400 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 200 U.S. Post Office Courthouse Bldg. 615 East Houston Street San Antonio, Texas 78205-9998 (210) 225-6741 Federal Bureau of Investigation Federal Office Building 9797 Aero Drive San Diego, California 92123-1800 (619) 565-1255 Federal Bureau of Investigation 450 Golden Gate Avenue, 13th. Floor San Francisco, California 94102-9523 (415) 553-7400 Federal Bureau of Investigation Room 526, U.S. Federal Bldg. 150 Carlos Chardon Avenue Hato Rey San Juan, Puerto Rico 00918-1716 (787) 754-6000 Federal Bureau of Investigation Room 710 915 Second Avenue Seattle, Washington 98174-1096 (206) 622-0460 Federal Bureau of Investigation Suite 400 400 West Monroe Street Springfield, Illinois 62704-1800 (217) 522-9675 Federal Bureau of Investigation Room 610, FOB 500 Zack Street Tampa, Florida 33602-3917 (813) 273-4566 Federal Bureau of Investigation Washington Metropolitan Field Office 601 4th Street, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20535-0002 (202) 278-2000 =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke =================================================================== 772 From: James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Thu Jul 6, 2000 3:07pm Subject: Swiss prosecution wants jail for Mossad spy Swiss prosecution wants jail for Mossad spy http://www.excite.co.uk/news/news_story/world/reuters_world_news_20000 706171603_6.txt Thursday 6 July 2000 LAUSANNE, Switzerland, July 6 (Reuters) - Swiss prosecutors on Thursday demanded a 15-month jail sentence for an agent of Israel's Mossad secret service caught red-handed during a bungled wiretap attempt in Switzerland in 1998. Deputy Federal Prosecutor Felix Baenziger called the action a serious violation of Swiss sovereignty and asked the Federal Court, Switzerland's highest, to fine the agent 5,000 Swiss francs ($3,090) and ban him from the country for 10 years. Baenziger asked the five-judge panel to find the spy, who has identified himself only by the code name Issac Bental, guilty of illegal actions for a foreign state, political espionage and falsification of identity documents. Defence attorneys for the 46-year-old spy, who has acknowledged his role in the botched eavesdropping operation, asked for acquittal, arguing their client acted to protect the vital interests of Israel. Bental himself, who had the right to make a statement to the court after his defence lawyers, chose to remain silent. Bental and four accomplices were caught in and outside an apartment building near the capital Berne in February 1998 while trying to tap the phone of a naturalised Lebanese-born car dealer who Mossad thought had links with Hizbollah Islamic guerrillas. Police later released the others, but held Bental when he failed to explain what he was doing with a suitcase full of electronic gear in the cellar of a private residence. Israel paid bail of three million Swiss francs and apologized, and Bental was allowed to leave the country in April 1998 on condition he return to stand trial. Political espionage is punishable by up to four years in jail, but legal experts have said the agent faces a lesser sentence, possibly suspended, which would reflect the diplomatic sensitivities of the case. The court will hand down its sentence on Friday. Some Mossad agents were reported by Israel radio on Wednesday to be threatening to refuse further missions in protest against Bental being sent to stand trial in Switzerland. ($1=1.618 Swiss Franc) =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke =================================================================== 773 From: Miguel Puchol Date: Wed Jul 5, 2000 5:20pm Subject: RE: Various Subjects Hi all, > Just the other day a prospective client asked me if it was possible to > intercept fax or e-mail communications and read them. Apparently > they asked > their 'security company' who told them that it was impossible to intercept > fax and e-mail transmissions. So perhaps a question for the FAQ list could > be: "Can fax messages be intercepted?" Yes. I've seen a combination of hardware/software system intercept faxes sent via Inmarsat (in A mode) - so same could be done in telephone lines. I'll dig out a couple of URLs of companies making 'fax-testing tools'... Cheers, Mike 774 From: Dr. Pepper Date: Thu Jul 6, 2000 8:54am Subject: Re: (was) Various Subjects (now) Video monitoring I'm just a newbie to this list here in Californbia, USA, but the question asked below is, I think, quite obvious! YES! It can be intercepted and read. ANYTHING can be intercepted and read! Fax and email are very simple to intercept. The question of video interception is another story, but yes, it also, can be intercepted. I am presently seting up a video montoring system for use in my office, and to sell as a complete system for others that may need this service. My question is: Is there anyone out there using video moinitoring, who would they like to compare and discuss these things with me? I really need to talk to someone who is more experienced with these systems who would share their thoughts. Thanx Ron Cheshire, ACI Engineering, Ridgecrest, CA DrPepper@i... ================================================== Mike Dever wrote: > James and other members of the group, > > 1. Covert Video Surveillance: > > There has been some recent discussion about the legality of covert video > surveillance. > > All Australian jurisdictions (federal, state and territory) have existing > laws prohibiting the manufacture, sale, possession, use, etc of 'listening > devices' however the law has been silent about video or optical surveillance > until recently. At least one state here in Australia (Victoria) has enacted > legislation prohibiting covert video surveillance without a warrant from a > court. The Victorian legislation is called the 'Surveillance Devices Act, > 1999' and is available at http://www.dms.dpc.vic.gov.au/sb/index.html. > > It is expected that all Australian states and territories will soon have > similar legislation. > > 2. Detection of IR Emitting devices: > > In addition to the Watec Model WAT-902A, the Ikegami ICD-42 series > monochrome cameras also have a very good IR response. The spectral response > of the ICD43E for example extends to beyond 1100nm (without the IR cut > filter) > > 3. Bug Sweep FAQ 2000 > > Just the other day a prospective client asked me if it was possible to > intercept fax or e-mail communications and read them. Apparently they asked > their 'security company' who told them that it was impossible to intercept > fax and e-mail transmissions. So perhaps a question for the FAQ list could > be: "Can fax messages be intercepted?" > > Regards > Michael J. Dever CPP > Senior Engineer > Dever Clark & Associates > Canberra > Australia > Telephone: +6254 5337 > Telefax: +6278 4020 > E-mail: deverclark@b... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Who invented Gatorade -- and what part did it play in > winning the1967 Orange Bowl? Find out the true facts at > http://click.egroups.com/1/6212/1/_/507420/_/962834502/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.onelist.com/community/TSCM-L > > or email your subscription request to: > subTSCM-L@t... > =================================================== TSKS -- - - - Dr Pepper, aka Ron Cheshire, WB6GKI, 3537.26N/11740.02W China Lake, CA USA 90 miles West of Death Valley, 200 miles North of LAX - - - 775 From: Doug Ellsworth Date: Thu Jul 6, 2000 2:31pm Subject: Re: Request for assistance Jim and Group: I am posting this as a favor to an associated company (PRC, Inc.) who has been tasked with updating one or their client's corporate information security policy. The way their client wants to approach this task is to review a number of corporate security policies, especially in the Fortune 500 arena, as a basis for their revised document. This message is to request help in obtaining such policy statements. I know this is unusual request, but PRC does little work in the commercial arena, working almost exclusively with specific U.S. government agencies worldwide. If any in the group have contacts that would be willing to share an anonymous policy statement please let me know. PRC Inc. will promise non-disclosure, and sanitize. Their next meeting with their client (in the Reston, VA area) will be tomorrow. I once had a link (since lost) to a site that provided a CD (for about $500) that contained anonymous examples for site security policies. This would be helpful if any of the group can point us to this site. Thank you all. -Doug Doug Ellsworth Secure Communications Corporation, Inc. Phone: 402.578.7709 Email: do5ug@r... 776 From: James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Thu Jul 6, 2000 3:31pm Subject: Mossad Hot Over Spy Left Out To Dry Mossad Hot Over Spy Left Out To Dry http://www.nypostonline.com/news/7285.htm By Andy Geller Mossad agents are threatening to refuse missions in protest of Israel's decision to hand over an operative of the spy agency to Switzerland. The agent, under the alias Isaac Bental, is on trial in Lausanne on spying and wiretapping charges. He was nabbed in February 1988, installing a bug in an apartment in the Swiss capital, Berne. Mossad agents told Israeli Radio yesterday they are "angry and greatly frustrated" that Bental was handed over. In addition to spying and wiretapping, Bental also faces charges of entering the country using papers with false names and carrying out illegal acts for a foreign state. The operation's target was Abdallah el-Zein, a Swiss citizen of Lebanese descent who manages an Islamic center in Berne. Cops caught Bental and four colleagues installing the bugging equipment in the basement of el-Zein's apartment building after residents reported strange noises. Only Bental was arrested, because he was holding a bag with tools to install the wiretap. On the second day of the trial yesterday, his lawyers probed for links between el-Zein and terrorist masters in Lebanon and Iran. But a Swiss police expert testified that investigators were unable to connect the center to Hezbollah, the Iranian-backed terrorist group. =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke =================================================================== 777 From: James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Thu Jul 6, 2000 3:33pm Subject: PM rejects claim by Mossad agents that gov't abandoned them Thursday, July 6 2000 15:25 3 Tammuz 5760 PM rejects claim by Mossad agents that gov't abandoned them http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/07/06/News/News.9259.html By Jerusalem Post Staff and News Agencies JERUSALEM (July 6) - The Prime Minister's Office yesterday said it gave "full support" to the Mossad and its director, rejecting criticism by Mossad agents that the government had turned its back on the service by sending an agent to stand trial in Switzerland for a bungled wire-tap attempt on a Hizbullah member. A security source said the government could not renege on its pledge to send the agent to Switzerland for the trial, which began on Monday. Israel Radio reported yesterday that some Mossad agents were considering a boycott of future missions in protest. The radio said Mossad agents were "angry and greatly frustrated" over the return to Switzerland of the agent, who is travelling under the alias "David Bental," calling it a "complete lack of backing." In 1998 the agent was caught in the basement of an apartment house near the Swiss capital of Bern trying to tap the phone of a naturalized Lebanese-born car dealer suspected of having links to Hizbullah. Apart from wiretapping, the charges against the agent include entering the country using genuine papers with false names, political espionage and carrying out illegal acts for a foreign state. The radio reported that Mossad director Ephraim Halevy had been informed of the agent's operations in advance. It said Mossad agents were also frustrated over what they said was a drop in the number of operations and the rejection of many planned missions by Prime Minister Ehud Barak, the radio reported. Barak has to approve any Mossad operations. The incident in Switzerland was one of a series of bungled operations in recent years to tarnish the once vaunted image of Mossad. In 1997 the agency failed in an attempt to assassinate the head of Hamas in Jordan, leading to tension between Jordan and Israel three years after they signed a peace deal. =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke =================================================================== 778 From: James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Thu Jul 6, 2000 3:36pm Subject: Swiss Mossad Trial Nears End Swiss Mossad Trial Nears End http://www.worldnews.com/?action=display&article=2607774&template=worl dnews/search.txt&index=recent LAUSANNE, Switzerland (AP) - The Swiss government on Thursday asked a court to sentence an Israeli spy to 15 months in prison in a case that reportedly has caused unrest in the ranks of Mossad agents in Israel. The agent being tried under the pseudonym Issac Bental had participated knowingly in an illegal attempt to wiretap a Swiss-Lebanese citizen whom Israel suspected of supporting terrorist acts, but for which there was no proof, Deputy Federal Prosecutor Felix Baenziger said in closing arguments. ``The case presented falls far short of being an emergency situation,'' said Baenziger. ``Immediate danger ... cannot be seen here with all respect to the fears of the Israeli population of terrorist attacks.'' Bental's lawyer was to present his case later Thursday. The court is to rule Friday. Israel radio reported Wednesday that Mossad agents, angry that one of their own had to return to face public trial in Switzerland, were refusing to go on overseas missions. The agents accuse the Israeli government of failing to stand by operatives in the field when they get into trouble. However, Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh insisted the government is giving its full support to the agency. ``There is no problem of political backing for the Mossad,'' Sneh told Israel radio. Although other Mossad agents have been arrested abroad and even tried, the Swiss procedure has exposed Bental to unusual scrutiny. Swiss prosecutors and the five-judge panel of the Federal Criminal Court allowed Bental to continue hiding his true identity - even from them - on grounds that revealing it could endanger his life. They also have refrained from pressing him for answers about Mossad operations beyond what they already know about his failed mission. But the defendant has been required to sit on the bench next to his Swiss lawyers, where he can be seen by court spectators. His comments are translated from Hebrew into German for the court. Four Israeli diplomats sit behind him for moral support. The lawyers and judges have gone over the details of his two trips to Switzerland in 1998, when he was caught with four other agents installing a wiretap. The operation was to set up equipment to record conversations on the telephone of a Swiss-Lebanese man whom Mossad suspected of supporting terrorist acts by the anti-Israeli organization Hezbollah. It was foiled after a woman living in an apartment in the building called police because she heard strange noises after midnight. The other agents - two men and two women - were questioned and released, but Bental was jailed for more than two months because he was carrying a bag with tools to install the equipment. Bental was released on bail of $2 million two years ago on the assurances of the Israeli government that he would return to face trial. Bental's chief lawyer has been asking questions suggesting links between the man, Abdallah el-Zein, and terrorist masters in Lebanon and Iran. El-Zein, a Lebanese-born car dealer who obtained Swiss citizenship by marriage, ran an Ahl El-Beit center, part of an international chain that promotes adherence to Shiite Islam. But a Swiss police expert said investigators had been unable to prove that the worldwide Ahl El-Beit network were connected to Hezbollah, the Iranian-backed Shiite Muslim guerrilla group that led the fight against Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon. Bental said each of the three charges against him was true - that he acted illegally for a foreign country, conducted political espionage and repeatedly used false foreign identity documents. =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke =================================================================== 779 From: James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Thu Jul 6, 2000 3:56pm Subject: RE: Research Electronics Equipment Do you have a part number for the insulated antenna? -jma At 9:02 AM -0500 7/5/00, Thomas H. Jones wrote: >When we first developed the CPM, we knew that ESD would be a problem if >care is not taken to avoid the problem. We could have added additional >circuitry to address the issue, but this would have lowered the sensitivity >of the unit. However, about three years ago we modified the design of the >CPM probe antenna to meet CE mark requirements, and now we offer two >versions of the probe. The normal version is unchanged, the new version has >an antenna that is basically rubber coated to protect against ESD. There is >slight loss in performance with the new antenna, and for this reason, we >usually do not ship this version unless requested. But, most people find >the performance more than adequate for a broadband receiver. If you would >like this new probe, please contact us directly. > >Best Regards, >Tom Jones >General Manager REI > > > >-----Original Message----- >From:A Grudko [SMTP:agrudko@i...] >Sent:Wednesday, July 05, 2000 8:16 AM >To:TSCM-L@egroups.com >Subject:Re: [TSCM-L] Research Electronics Equipment > >----- Original Message ----- > > The OSCOR and CPM-700 make an excellent package to get started with, > > and we have had really good luck with them. > >I'm also very happy with the CPM-700 except that it is prown to blowing the >first stage transistor in the RF probe if you touch a metal object and >there >is a static discharge. We have blown 3 that way. > >Our winters are very dry and some carpet/shoe friction combinations cause >serious discharges - you can see the spark even in daylight. We tell our >technicians to touch metal frequently to discharge and obviously try to >keep >the probe away from any conducting surface, but.... > >Taking shoes off helps but looks weird to the client. We tried a computer >tech.'s wristband with a long cable to earth but that has it's own >disadvantages - one blow-out was 'cos the tech. didn't realised he'd pulled >the cable out by stepping on it and touched a metal filing cabinette. Well >that's his story. > >I don't have the same problem with the Scanlock. I can only think of >re-fitting the probe's PCB into a bigger box with BNC m & f's, add some >static protection and make up a strip of veroboard straight through the >neat >little CPM probe to the antenna. Any better suggestions? > > >Andy Grudko (CEO) - Grudko Wilson Associates (SA) (Pty) Ltd - Crime >investigation & intelligence >Johannesburg - Cape Town - Durban - Pretoria - UK - US - Canada - >Australia - Israel. Agents in 43 countries - www.grudko.com - (+27 11) 465 >9673 - 465 1487 (Fax) - Est. 1981 >GIN (Charter), SACI (Pres), WAD, CALI, SASFed, SASA, SAMLF, SCIP (SA >Chairman), CITTF, >UKPIN, AFIO (OS), IWWL, PRETrust "When you need it done right - first >time" ICQ 78711262 =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke =================================================================== 780 From: Gordon Mitchell Date: Thu Jul 6, 2000 4:13pm Subject: Re: Re: Request for assistance Unfortunately they have put you in an impossible position. The word "policy" is tightly bound to the word "procedure" which has people implications. Simply stated, a written document that comes over the wire is as worthless as the best selling books listing security survey questions. Anyone who does policy has to have a broad capability, direct contact with the strategic folks in the company, time to find out how policy will be implemented and time to live in the corporate culture. Anything short of this will simply become an effort that bounces off the bureaucracy. These folks need someone who has made the mistakes before (called experience) and can learn about the company by being there. Any written material that comes in to inexperienced folks is bound to fail. Gordon Mitchell Future Focus, Inc Woodinville, WA (888) BUG-KILR Electronic eavesdropping detection & finding clues in computers. Doug Ellsworth wrote: > Jim and Group: > > I am posting this as a favor to an associated company (PRC, Inc.) who has > been tasked with updating one or their client's corporate information > security policy. The way their client wants to approach this task is to > review a number of corporate security policies, especially in the Fortune > 500 arena, as a basis for their revised document. This message is to > request help in obtaining such policy statements. > > I know this is unusual request, but PRC does little work in the commercial > arena, working almost exclusively with specific U.S. government agencies > worldwide. If any in the group have contacts that would be willing to share > an anonymous policy statement please let me know. PRC Inc. will promise > non-disclosure, and sanitize. Their next meeting with their client (in the > Reston, VA area) will be tomorrow. > > I once had a link (since lost) to a site that provided a CD (for about $500) > that contained anonymous examples for site security policies. This would be > helpful if any of the group can point us to this site. > > Thank you all. > > -Doug > > Doug Ellsworth > Secure Communications Corporation, Inc. > Phone: 402.578.7709 > Email: do5ug@r... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Life's too short to send boring email. Let SuperSig come to the rescue. > http://click.egroups.com/1/6137/1/_/507420/_/962915235/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.onelist.com/community/TSCM-L > > or email your subscription request to: > subTSCM-L@t... > =================================================== TSKS 781 From: James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng Date: Thu Jul 6, 2000 5:20pm Subject: Fwd: Re: Re: Request for assistance >X-From_: sendmail Thu Jul 6 17:52:22 2000 >X-Sender: jkg@2... >Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 17:49:49 -0500 >To: jmatk@tscm.com >From: James Goldston >Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] Re: Request for assistance > >Jim, could you please post this? The note bounced from TSCM-L@egroups.com. > Guess I need to sign up my new email address to be able to submit. I'll >try to resubscribe tomorrow. In the meantime, if you have the time, >perhaps you would not mind posting so Doug can get some responses. If not, >never mind. > >Thank you, >James > >=-=-=-=-= >Hey Doug, > >You must be referring to Cresson Wood's $500 book. See >www.baselinesoft.com. You may find it useful, but, alone, it is not >sufficient as a policy reference text. At one time, we had hoped to use it >to assist in the development of commercial firm's security policies (we >have done much gov't policy work, even some with PRC), but found it to be >not very helpful. We corresponded with Baseline providing feedback on two >versions of the book and even investigated reselling it, but decided >against it. > >I will be quite surprised if you get much response from your request for >other firm's security policies. These documents come about only as a >result of very much hard work. Our firm does not provide such information >free but would be willing to speak with your associate and respond to an RFQ. > >I would note that there is a quite a range of policy, procedures, metrics, >etc. that an organization must address to span the gamut from the >high-level, corporate, short CIO-driven policies to mid-mgmt, user, >sysdmin, etc. level. Policies may take many forms, including network-, >system-, application-, user-centric, etc. As an FYI, your request is not >unusual. Anyway, there's a few thoughts. > >Have a nice day, >James > > >At 12:31 PM 7/6/00 -0700, Doug Ellsworth wrote: > >Jim and Group: > > > >I am posting this as a favor to an associated company (PRC, Inc.) who has > >been tasked with updating one or their client's corporate information > >security policy. The way their client wants to approach this task is to > >review a number of corporate security policies, especially in the Fortune > >500 arena, as a basis for their revised document. This message is to > >request help in obtaining such policy statements. > > > >I know this is unusual request, but PRC does little work in the commercial > >arena, working almost exclusively with specific U.S. government agencies > >worldwide. If any in the group have contacts that would be willing to share > >an anonymous policy statement please let me know. PRC Inc. will promise > >non-disclosure, and sanitize. Their next meeting with their client (in the > >Reston, VA area) will be tomorrow. > > > >I once had a link (since lost) to a site that provided a CD (for about $500) > >that contained anonymous examples for site security policies. This would be > >helpful if any of the group can point us to this site. > > > >Thank you all. > > > > > >-Doug =================================================================== Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? =================================================================== James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 jmatk@tscm.com =================================================================== "...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke ===================================================================