From: James M. Atkinson Date: Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:12pm Subject: Re: TSCM Referals Bunch of smart asses on the list. ;-) That is SWEEP services, not weep services. -jma At 09:51 PM 8/26/2004, Charles Patterson wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James M. Atkinson > To: TSCM-L > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 2:15 AM > Subject: [TSCM-L] TSCM Referals > > > would be happy hear from list members who > offer weep services, and I would be happy to review any resume, document, > brochures you may care to send. > > -jma > > >hmm, "weep services" >I suppose that would include such as for funerals, weddings, stock market >crashes, and perhaps some computer crashes... > >:) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. 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Molay Date: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:21am Subject: Re: gsm interceptor On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:23:27 +0200 "delta" wrote: > hello everybody > a link with an interceptor but maybe a probleme with the price .... hummmm > very low price .... > http://trans.voila.fr/voila?systran_lp=en_fr&systran_f=1093382427&systran_id > =Voila-fr&systran_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gsmss.as.ro%2FVersions_of_Products.ht > m > > and this one for the technical part > http://trans.voila.fr/voila?systran_lp=en_fr&systran_f=1093383440&systran_id > =Voila-fr&systran_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gsmss.as.ro%2FTechnical_Part.htm > > david from paris It sounds like a scam... You should NOT (under any circumstances) send the money through Western Union to east europe countries. Once money is sent via Western Union, especially to Europe, no password or anything else is needed to claim the funds. Some outlets require an ID, which is easily bypassed by using a fake one, and in some countries, no ID is necessary at all, as long as the scammer has the transaction number of the funds. Keep in mind, they will try to sweet talk to you, and reassure you that the transaction will be secure and in your best interest. NO MATTER WHAT SECURITIES THEY OFFER YOU, do not carry through with the transaction. > > > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- J. Molay 9471 From: G P Date: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:17pm Subject: Re: Re: gsm interceptor (scam ?) There is no way that it's doing realtime A5/1 decoding, not possible with that hardware. --- contranl wrote: > . > > Here is the direct link: > > http://www.gsmss.as.ro/ > > > First sight conlusion: > > It is to cheap..(4000 Euro's)....so can't be true. > > > Why 1) > > Why sell something that if it works could be sold > for 4 to 10 times > that price...i know people who would easely pay that > but don''t know > where to get it... > > > Why 2) > > If you look at the obviously purpose built (dual) > receivers alone > wich do look expensive...at 4000 Euro they won't > make any profit. > then there is the laptop wich alone costs 1000 > Euro's > > Would you sell such a "hot item" for 200 Euro's > profit ? > > > Why 3) > > To much attention is given on the antenna > amplifiers... > for a real gsm interceptor manufacturer...antennas > are something > not even worth to mention..said different...if you > make such a real > unit...you won't spend 30% of your website on just > the antenna- > amplifier > > > Why 4) > > There ordering system is certainly very > unusual....and it looks to > me like they first are trying to find out whith whom > they are dealing > to establish there "selling" tactics (and risks) > > > Why 5) > > A little to much attention on UPS and DHL ...wich > are well respected > companies...so they use them to get a "solid" look > > > Why 6) > > Then there is the pop-up ad ...inviting you to make > online money > when you click on it it directs you to a > non-existing page > very bad to do that ...specially when your visitors > are already very > suspicious...it could be that they are to stupid to > realise that.. > > > Why 7) > > I won't even discuss the technical part...one or 2 > things i notice > is that they say they use the soundcard to input > whatever is received > into the computer !!!!! very unlikely. > So they don't use a dedicated demodulator for that > > i have serious doubts if that is possible..a Gsm > signal is not a > simple and slow fsk signal. > > It looks like the laptop has to do everyting at the > same time > > Demodulating the GSM signal (analog to digital > conversion) > Controlling the receivers > Separating the signalling and voice parts > Decrypting the A5 encryption > > All of that at the same (real) time. > > .................................... > > > I dont know but ...i don't trust it. > > I guess we never know untill someone wants to risk > the 4000 Euro > These kind of advertisements have been around for > almost 3 years now > and i have never heard if such a lowcost system > really works. > > A5 encryption has only recently been cracked ..i > do'nt know what > kind of processing power was used for that...but i > doubt if it is do- > able with just a laptop ( you may look that up using > Google and look > for "A5 encryption") > > There are some Far East interceptors being > advertised with little or > no computing power...they must be intended for > systems (like China) > that dont have A5 encryption...these systems where > installed before > A5 was released from the restricted export lists > > The problem ofcourse is that if someone uses such a > system and it > works well the won't tell me :) :) > > Anyway if someone can come up with the money i would > certainly like > to take part of a little investigative reporting. > > Very soon i will prepare a list of all "Gsm > interceptors" available > on the net...i would like to add some comments to > that list about > if they are "real" or "scams"...i hope you > understand that is a > difficult task > > Feel free to mail me here or private with any > information that i > could add(or not)to such a page. > > Tetrascanner > www.tetrascanner.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail 9472 From: Jack Lloyd Date: Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:50pm Subject: Re: Re: gsm interceptor (scam ?) On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 05:14:21PM -0000, contranl wrote: > A5 encryption has only recently been cracked ..i do'nt know what > kind of processing power was used for that...but i doubt if it is do- > able with just a laptop ( you may look that up using Google and look > for "A5 encryption") A5/1 (the strongest version) was broken in 2000. With some one time precomputation (which takes up 300 Gb of data), you can break A5/1 in real-time on a 2000-era PC given a small amount of traffic. And A5/2 is trivially weak, it can easily be broken on a laptop. Also, there are attacks against GSM authentication with, for example, basestations that do a man in the middle attack between a phone and a real basestation. You can find some details of these systems in Anderson's Security Engineering -- he mentions systems like what you described, though he doesn't refer to cost. Apparently they are fairly commonly used in police investigations in areas that use GSM. Jack 9473 From: David Rom Date: Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:42pm Subject: RE: TSCM Referrals Hi James I'm your man in Israel and Europe. If you have any job at those areas, I will be more than happy to make the sweeps. David Rom david@g... CTO GD Intelligence Security LTD. www.gdis.co.il Office: +972-9-7676663 Fax: +972-9-7676665 Mobile: +972-54-449979 -----Original Message----- From: James M. Atkinson [mailto:jmatk@tscm.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 8:16 AM To: TSCM-L Subject: [TSCM-L] TSCM Referals I am interested in increasing the database I have of TSCM folks to whom I can refer sweep work out to, and would be happy hear from list members who offer weep services, and I would be happy to review any resume, document, brochures you may care to send. -jma ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------- James M. 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It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. =================================================== TSKS Yahoo! Groups Links 9474 From: Edward Hirst Date: Thu Aug 26, 2004 0:45pm Subject: Re: Re: gsm interceptor (scam ?) Also worth noting.. Their only contact details are an email address. Their site is just on a hosting account on some local Romanian server (explaining the pop up ads) They only accept payment by MoneyGram or Western Union. So nothing to stop them taking the money and running. Given the wonderful version of Romanian English - (worthy of translations in the old Micro Catalogs from Japan) can you imagine the menus and documentation that will come with the software. Go on send 4000 Euro cash to an anonymous Romanian for a hot product.. If it arrives let us know ;o) Edward Hirst Equinox Research Ltd. +44 777 000 0000 On 26/8/04 6:14 pm, "contranl" wrote: > . > > Here is the direct link: > > http://www.gsmss.as.ro/ > > > First sight conlusion: > > It is to cheap..(4000 Euro's)....so can't be true. > > > Why 1) > > Why sell something that if it works could be sold for 4 to 10 times > that price...i know people who would easely pay that but don''t know > where to get it... > > > Why 2) > > If you look at the obviously purpose built (dual) receivers alone > wich do look expensive...at 4000 Euro they won't make any profit. > then there is the laptop wich alone costs 1000 Euro's > > Would you sell such a "hot item" for 200 Euro's profit ? > > > Why 3) > > To much attention is given on the antenna amplifiers... > for a real gsm interceptor manufacturer...antennas are something > not even worth to mention..said different...if you make such a real > unit...you won't spend 30% of your website on just the antenna- > amplifier > > > Why 4) > > There ordering system is certainly very unusual....and it looks to > me like they first are trying to find out whith whom they are dealing > to establish there "selling" tactics (and risks) > > > Why 5) > > A little to much attention on UPS and DHL ...wich are well respected > companies...so they use them to get a "solid" look > > > Why 6) > > Then there is the pop-up ad ...inviting you to make online money > when you click on it it directs you to a non-existing page > very bad to do that ...specially when your visitors are already very > suspicious...it could be that they are to stupid to realise that.. > > > Why 7) > > I won't even discuss the technical part...one or 2 things i notice > is that they say they use the soundcard to input whatever is received > into the computer !!!!! very unlikely. > So they don't use a dedicated demodulator for that > i have serious doubts if that is possible..a Gsm signal is not a > simple and slow fsk signal. > > It looks like the laptop has to do everyting at the same time > > Demodulating the GSM signal (analog to digital conversion) > Controlling the receivers > Separating the signalling and voice parts > Decrypting the A5 encryption > > All of that at the same (real) time. > > .................................... > > > I dont know but ...i don't trust it. > > I guess we never know untill someone wants to risk the 4000 Euro > These kind of advertisements have been around for almost 3 years now > and i have never heard if such a lowcost system really works. > > A5 encryption has only recently been cracked ..i do'nt know what > kind of processing power was used for that...but i doubt if it is do- > able with just a laptop ( you may look that up using Google and look > for "A5 encryption") > > There are some Far East interceptors being advertised with little or > no computing power...they must be intended for systems (like China) > that dont have A5 encryption...these systems where installed before > A5 was released from the restricted export lists > > The problem ofcourse is that if someone uses such a system and it > works well the won't tell me :) :) > > Anyway if someone can come up with the money i would certainly like > to take part of a little investigative reporting. > > Very soon i will prepare a list of all "Gsm interceptors" available > on the net...i would like to add some comments to that list about > if they are "real" or "scams"...i hope you understand that is a > difficult task > > Feel free to mail me here or private with any information that i > could add(or not)to such a page. > > Tetrascanner > www.tetrascanner.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > 9475 From: G P Date: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:31pm Subject: Re: Does anybody have any interest? I'm already working on one for the R10 via the CT-17, done in Python for detecting GPS chipping birdies - eventual design is handheld control based on the Zaurus PDA (linux running Python). What language is your existing code in? --- "James M. Atkinson" wrote: > > I am trying to determine if there would be much > interest by list members > for a program to drive an R8500, R20, or PCR1000 and > make it "DO TSCM". > > I am asking this as I have several A.I.s (Artificial > Intelligence, or > Daemons) that I developed, and have taught them to > perform essential TSCM > functions on these radios completely under computer > control. > > I am interested in putting these AI's out in the > wild for a while for other > TSCM folks to use and see if the users have any > feedback. > > Does anybody on the list have any comments, > suggestions, or idea's on the > topic? > > -jma > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and > Real Wiretappers. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > James M. Atkinson > Phone: (978) 381-9111 > Granite Island Group Fax: > > 127 Eastern Avenue #291 > Web: http://www.tscm.com/ > Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: > mailto:jmatk@tscm.com > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent > Bug Sweeps, and > Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory > Grade Test Equipment. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. 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Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush 9476 From: contranl Date: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:53pm Subject: Interactive demo of Rhode & Schwarz FSH3 Spectrum Analyzer . (Not shure if this has been posted before) Have a look at this very nice: Interactive demo of Rhode & Schwarz FSH3 Spectrum Analyzer There is skip-intro button somewhere wich you may not see right away since the screen is very big...best is to open it in full screen ! http://www.cms.rohdeschwarz.com/live/rs/product/product_simulation/si m/40c46d72aaedc.sim/fsh3mov.html If link ist kaputt dann bitte hier: http://tinyurl.com/46unp Tetrascanner www.tetrascanner.com 9477 From: Mike Dever Date: Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:13am Subject: Re: Does anybody have any interest? Jim I for one would be interested in such a program.I have a couple of questions: What exactly do you mean by "DO TSCM"? I noticed that the receivers you listed are all Icom. What about other 'software controlled' receivers on the market (dare I mention WinRadio)? Regards Mike On 27 Aug 2004, at 11:01, James M. Atkinson wrote: > > I am trying to determine if there would be much interest by list > members > for a program to drive an R8500, R20, or PCR1000 and make it "DO TSCM". > > I am asking this as I have several A.I.s (Artificial Intelligence, or > Daemons) that I developed, and have taught them to perform essential > TSCM > functions on these radios completely under computer control. > > I am interested in putting these AI's out in the wild for a while for > other > TSCM folks to use and see if the users have any feedback. > > Does anybody on the list have any comments, suggestions, or idea's on > the > topic? > > -jma > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------ > > We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------ > > James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 > Granite Island Group Fax: > 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: > http://www.tscm.com/ > Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@tscm.com > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------ > > World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and > Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------ > > > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Michael J. Dever CPP Dever Clark & Associates GPO Box 1163 Canberra ACT 2601 Voice: (02) 6254 5337 Email: dca@b... This message is sent in strict confidence for the addressee only. It may contain legally privileged information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise the sender immediately of any error in transmission. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 9478 From: Michael Puchol Date: Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:14am Subject: Re: Re: gsm interceptor (scam ?) What we must always remember is that if > Apparently they are fairly commonly used in police > investigations in areas that use GSM. then the investigation is being conducted illegally. I'm not sure what the state of affairs on court orders for wiretaps is like in the U.S. post-PATRIOT act, so maybe these requirements have been waived and it's a free-for-all. AFAIK if a LEA needed to intercept a cellular phone, it was much easier to call the operator and have *them* set up a trace, to which they can listen in the comfort of their office rather than a hot, uncomfortable roving van. The only use for these interceptors is to a) conduct illegal surveillance or b) conduct surveillance on foreign networks to which you don't have legal access. Other possiblities come to mind but they are all shady anyhow. Best regards, Mike 9479 From: taylortscm@y... Date: Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:51am Subject: Re: Does anybody have any interest? jim: I would be interested, and also what did you think of the icom r-20? dan "James M. Atkinson" wrote: I am trying to determine if there would be much interest by list members for a program to drive an R8500, R20, or PCR1000 and make it "DO TSCM". I am asking this as I have several A.I.s (Artificial Intelligence, or Daemons) that I developed, and have taught them to perform essential TSCM functions on these radios completely under computer control. I am interested in putting these AI's out in the wild for a while for other TSCM folks to use and see if the users have any feedback. Does anybody on the list have any comments, suggestions, or idea's on the topic? -jma ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 9480 From: fjansgmxnet Date: Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:53am Subject: Re: Far East Spystuff / Video-scanner > Hi, > I know something, that is selled as "CATV spectrum analyzer" ( > hehe..) manufactured in China, and priced under 200$... > some tech. specs : > -freq. coverage : 5-870 MHz > -span ( variable ) from 1 to 865 MHz > -sensitivity ( variable) from 10 dBmicrovolts to 10 dbmilivolts > -large LCD screen ( about 4x8 cmxcm) > -in-builded NiCd batt.pack ( about 4 houres lifetime ) > I use this item with an ATV downconverter ( 2300-2500 MHz down to 200- > 400 MHz)...total bill is well under 400$... > and +of course, a homemade SBF 12 dBi antenna, not priced here.. > Rgrds Hi, a CATV monitor device would demodulate AM modulated TV-signals, correct? But transmissions in the 2300-2500 MHz range are in 99.9% of all cases FM modulated signals (like SATV), correct? So with a simple ATV-downconverter I think you will see only very very few pictures. You could use a simple downconverter together with a SATV-RX. But that is not a comfortable portable solution. Regards Frank 9481 From: J. Molay Date: Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:08am Subject: Re: Wi-Fi Detector On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 00:59:34 +0200 "Tech Sec Lab" wrote: > Going back to what Andy from SA said about gift ideas for clients.... > > Here's one.... > > http://www.smithmicro.com/default.tpl?sku=WIFISEEKER&cart=1093563962272397&g > roup=product_full > > Quality unknown. All those Wifiseekers are rebranded from CHRYSALIS DEVELOPMENT LLC http://www.wifiseeker.com/ http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/Reviews-146-ProdID-SEEKER.php (interesting review, and some "reverse engineering" or a wifiseeker) If you ask, they will send free sample for evaluation, the unit works very well with 802.11 b/g (medium to full power signals, low power gets undetected), and do not get affected (false positives) by bluetooth (even at a few cm from a Class I device) or others RF signals in the 2.4 Ghz band. The also can print your logo in the wifiseeker at low price. 9482 From: delta Date: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:50am Subject: Re: Does anybody have any interest? hello james i do tscm in france since 1995 ( we re not a lot in france doing this) i use an old csr1, an old helwet packard and some opto counter ( m1 , scout , digital , sweeper ...) some receiver as aor 8200 , yeasu etc etc ... i m going to buy the deluxe cpm700 as soon as possible ( may be in september ) but her in france there is not a lot of work in tscm ... i can send you ( but in french) the paper i give to the client if you want but in private mail david from paris http://www.deltafrance.com 9483 From: fjansgmxnet Date: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:00am Subject: Re: Far East Spystuff / Video-scanner > Hi, > the practical solution for your goal could be a palmsize lcd-screen TV > ( Casioxxx, etc) + (say) CalAmp 2,4 GHz antenna with in-builded > downconverter... total bill is under 500 $, and no time wasting... > With this arrangement you could pick-up a douzens of crying babies > even in far-field ( hehe, ..:) ) > Greetings, and success.... Hi, I think it is the same problem as like with the use of a CATV monitor: The Casio will demodulate AM TV-signals and in the 2.4GHZ range you will find 99.9% FM TV-signals. So you will receive only very few signals with this setup. Regards Frank 9484 From: Date: Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:46am Subject: Re: Re: gsm interceptor (scam ?) Virtually every government uses GSM interception. That is a plain fact of life, no matter what we think about legal aspects. They cannot call operator for help if they do not know what the number is or what name the GSM card was issued for. Even in Europe anyone can buy a no-name GSM card without showing any ID. Basically two systems exist: active (emulation of a cell station) and passive (signal interception and real time decoding). Every method of interception has its advantages and disadvantages. Wih active interception it is possible to swith off frequency hopping so that exact location can be fould with a simple handheld DF, for instance. A typical active system is G-900 made in Germany by Rohde und Schwarz, while Harris makes a complete passive system. Similar systems are produced in Russia and probably in Israel. Regards, A.W. "Michael Puchol" wrote: >What we must always remember is that if > >> Apparently they are fairly commonly used in police >> investigations in areas that use GSM. > >then the investigation is being conducted illegally. I'm not sure what the >state of affairs on court orders for wiretaps is like in the U.S. >post-PATRIOT act, so maybe these requirements have been waived and it's a >free-for-all. AFAIK if a LEA needed to intercept a cellular phone, it was >much easier to call the operator and have *them* set up a trace, to which >they can listen in the comfort of their office rather than a hot, >uncomfortable roving van. > >The only use for these interceptors is to a) conduct illegal surveillance or >b) conduct surveillance on foreign networks to which you don't have legal >access. Other possiblities come to mind but they are all shady anyhow. > >Best regards, > >Mike > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp 9485 From: dj Date: Fri Aug 27, 2004 0:50pm Subject: ASIS International Anyone going to ASIS? www.asisonline.org Sept 27 and 28 I will be there. The Navy has cut me orders to attend. If anyone else is going we should do dinner and chat a few about TSCM. v/r, IT2 Garrett --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 9486 From: Shawn Hughes (Road) Date: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:15pm Subject: Re: TSCM mod for the PCR At 01:59 PM 8/27/04 +0000, you wrote: >I am trying to determine if there would be much interest by list members >for a program to drive an R8500, R20, or PCR1000 and make it "DO TSCM". Jim, I kept one of those squirrelled away, waiting for people like you to start porting applicable software. With good antennas, filters and amplification, would a PCR1000 be a good platform for TSCM? I always wanted to get a copy of the HOKA Gold and see if it worth the price......... -Shawn ==================================== Shawn Hughes Special Projects Consultant and Subcontractor 110 Hughes Hale Lane, Harriman, TN 37748 USA (865) 335-7992 Voicemail srh@e... /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Lead Instructor Explosives, WMD, and Technical Operations Tactical Response, LLC www.warriormindset.com ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ******NOTICE: Due to the age of my email account, I have to set spam filtering VERY high. If you do not receive a response in a reasonable amount of time, please try an alternate communications method. I apologize for the inconvienence. 9487 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:20pm Subject: Re: Re: TSCM mod for the PCR The PCR100 and PCR-1000 are great radio's for TSCM, but I have found it helpful to add a bandpass filter to the input as the PCR series lack the ability to knock down strong interfering signals, and are very prone to overload due to HF, CB's, etc. The radio provides good results if used with a 35 MHz and 130 MHz high pass filter (not at the same time), but tends to be touchy with the 150 MHz pager channels. I like the small size of the PCR100 (you can put it INSIDE a laptop), but the features of the PCR1000 are superior for the nominal extra cost. The PCR100 is no longer available, but its big brother is still available. The software that comes from ICOM is fine for listening to regular radio traffic, but I had to write my own software to optimize it for TSCM. Either radio works well in multiples, and you can run 8 of them from a single PCMCIA expansion card. In such a case you can give each radio a different bandpass filter, pre-amplifier, and tuned whip antenna. -jma At 05:15 PM 8/27/2004, Shawn Hughes (Road) wrote: >At 01:59 PM 8/27/04 +0000, you wrote: > >I am trying to determine if there would be much interest by list members > >for a program to drive an R8500, R20, or PCR1000 and make it "DO TSCM". > > >Jim, I kept one of those squirrelled away, waiting for people like you to >start porting applicable software. With good antennas, filters and >amplification, would a PCR1000 be a good platform for TSCM? I always >wanted to get a copy of the HOKA Gold and see if it worth the price......... > > >-Shawn >==================================== >Shawn Hughes >Special Projects Consultant and Subcontractor >110 Hughes Hale Lane, Harriman, TN 37748 USA >(865) 335-7992 Voicemail >srh@e... >/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >Lead Instructor >Explosives, WMD, and Technical Operations >Tactical Response, LLC >www.warriormindset.com >////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > >******NOTICE: Due to the age of my email account, I have to set spam >filtering VERY high. If you do not receive a response in a reasonable >amount of time, please try an alternate communications method. I apologize >for the inconvienence. > > > >======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. >=================================================== TSKS >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group Fax: 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@tscm.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9488 From: moellerthy <1ach@g...> Date: Fri Aug 27, 2004 6:25pm Subject: Re: Does anybody have any interest? --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, "James M. Atkinson" wrote: I like the Icom pcr1000 but have not been able to get it to scan zero to 1000 Mhz and write the hits along the way. After several calls to Icom they could not help me reach my goal although the radio can sweep as I'd like it to. I use the AOR8000 on a regular bases for which it's sensitivity is great I can capture signals with a directional antenna attached where as the Icom radio's could not detect the signal. I would like the radio to be computer controlled to sweep zero to 1800 Mhz and write the hits to a log, though the radio is very cabable to do just that I have not been able to program it correctly. I do use the ICOM 8500 and can control it's feature's as well as the ICOM R100. I use a HP 8569B GOOD TO 44 GIG and would like software to pull the stored traces and print as well otherwise I will have to print using my Avcom system. Andre Holmes 1ach@G... Neptune Enterprise Security > > I am trying to determine if there would be much interest by list members > for a program to drive an R8500, R20, or PCR1000 and make it "DO TSCM". > > I am asking this as I have several A.I.s (Artificial Intelligence, or > Daemons) that I developed, and have taught them to perform essential TSCM > functions on these radios completely under computer control. > > I am interested in putting these AI's out in the wild for a while for other > TSCM folks to use and see if the users have any feedback. > > Does anybody on the list have any comments, suggestions, or idea's on the > topic? > > -jma > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------- > > We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------- > > James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546- 3803 > Granite Island Group Fax: > 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ > Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@tscm.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------- > > World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and > Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------- 9489 From: Patrick Ryals, CEO Date: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:08pm Subject: High Temp Epoxy(?) What effect will high temp epoxy have on potted circuit boards? Will it raise the temp of the boards? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please respond privately this is a bit off topic. Sincerely, Patrick Ryals, CEO Nexus Investigations LA CA #22920 9490 From: contranl Date: Sat Aug 28, 2004 0:24am Subject: Re: High Temp Epoxy(?) . Usually all parameters that you need to know are indicated in the specs sheet of the stuff you want to use..that includes: The temperature it will generate during the hardening process,time it takes to completely stabilize,the % of shrinking,electrical resistance ,capacity etc... Just visit a website of a manufacturer and the specs should be there some of it is usuable for electrical circuits sometimes up to 3 Ghz. Take care if you go up to such high freqencies it might change a few pF's...so keep tuned circuit's free or accessable. Greetings Tetrascanner www.tetrascanner.com 9491 From: John and Sheryl Date: Sat Aug 28, 2004 0:28am Subject: RE: Does anybody have any interest? I also would be interested in developing software to automate some TSCM procedures. Is anyone familiar with BugFighter by Monteria? Possibly as a group we could work on your code and add features / functions. I am using a AOR8600 Mark2 and a Icom Ic-R7000. I would be willing to purchase a IC-R20 to work on this project and/or evaluate or provide feedback on the work you have already completed. John -----Original Message----- From: taylortscm@y... [mailto:taylortscm@y...] Sent: August 27, 2004 12:51 AM To: TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] Does anybody have any interest? jim: I would be interested, and also what did you think of the icom r-20? dan "James M. Atkinson" wrote: I am trying to determine if there would be much interest by list members for a program to drive an R8500, R20, or PCR1000 and make it "DO TSCM". I am asking this as I have several A.I.s (Artificial Intelligence, or Daemons) that I developed, and have taught them to perform essential TSCM functions on these radios completely under computer control. I am interested in putting these AI's out in the wild for a while for other TSCM folks to use and see if the users have any feedback. Does anybody on the list have any comments, suggestions, or idea's on the topic? -jma -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- James M. 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Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TSCM-L/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TSCM-L-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 9492 From: APL Date: Sat Aug 28, 2004 4:16am Subject: Re: TSCM Referals Hello James With reference to your request, I am happy to let you know that my company has been performing sweep works for more than 12 years. TSCM job here is good and we work on an average basis of 40-50 assigments/ year. We are based in France and work on a regular basis in Europe, North africa, Africa and Asia for major private companies. We have 2 TSCM teams, an IT security team and a little R&D lab. As we know that it is very difficult since 9/11 to travel with electronic gears, we have already done some assigments here and in europe on behalf of hight reputation american sweepers and for american companies, so we are used to work with american companies according to hight standard procedures. Any contact or information request will be welcome. Thanks in advance. Best regards Alain-Pierre Laclotte APL Consultants Tel : +33 (0) 238 742 220 Fax: +33 (0) 238 746 327 E-mail : apl@a... Web site : www.apl-consultants.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "James M. Atkinson" To: "TSCM-L" Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 8:15 AM Subject: [TSCM-L] TSCM Referals > > I am interested in increasing the database I have of TSCM folks to whom I > can refer sweep work out to, and would be happy hear from list members who > offer weep services, and I would be happy to review any resume, document, > brochures you may care to send. > > -jma > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- > > We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- > > James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 > Granite Island Group Fax: > 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ > Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@tscm.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- > > World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and > Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- > > > > > > ======================================================== > TSCM-L Technical Security Mailing List > "In a multitude of counselors there is strength" > > To subscribe to the TSCM-L mailing list visit: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/TSCM-L > > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the juice of Star Bucks that thoughts acquire speed, > the hands acquire shaking, the shaking is a warning. > It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. > =================================================== TSKS > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > 9493 From: Leanardo Date: Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:26am Subject: Re: Does anybody have any interest? James, I think this would be a great idea. I have a PCR-1000 that I use all the time, but the software develpoment for it is fairly limited. My personal favorite control application "TALK-PCR" is no longer being developed so I have migrated to using a Winradio. Bruce : ) --- In TSCM-L@yahoogroups.com, "James M. Atkinson" wrote: > > I am trying to determine if there would be much interest by list members > for a program to drive an R8500, R20, or PCR1000 and make it "DO TSCM". > > I am asking this as I have several A.I.s (Artificial Intelligence, or > Daemons) that I developed, and have taught them to perform essential TSCM > functions on these radios completely under computer control. > > I am interested in putting these AI's out in the wild for a while for other > TSCM folks to use and see if the users have any feedback. > > Does anybody on the list have any comments, suggestions, or idea's on the > topic? > > -jma > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- > > We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. > -------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- > > James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546- 3803 > Granite Island Group Fax: > 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ > Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@tscm.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- > > World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and > Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. > -------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- 9494 From: contranl Date: Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:40pm Subject: U.S. arrests over 100 in internet crime sweep U.S. arrests over 100 in Internet crime sweep Thu 26 August, 2004 22:40 By Andy Sullivan and Peter Kaplan WASHINGTON (Reuters) - More than 100 people have been arrested in the largest global crackdown to date on identity theft, hacking and other Internet-based crimes, U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft says. The arrests followed a three-month investigation into a range of crimes from reselling co-workers' Social Security numbers to disabling Web sites, Ashcroft said. "The common thread here is the Internet," he told a news conference. "We do not believe the Internet to be off base for law enforcement. We will be there with as much intensity and presence as we can muster." Officials from the Justice Department, the Federal Trade Commission and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service said the crackdown is designed to deter cyber-criminals and reassure consumers and businesses that the Internet is safe. "The Internet is stimulating the development of innovative products and services that were barely imaginable only a few years ago," said FTC chairwoman Deborah Majoras. "There is a risk, however, that these benefits will not be fully realised if consumers associate the Internet with fraudulent operators." The crackdown, dubbed "Operation Web Snare," involved some 150,000 victims who lost more than $215 million, Ashcroft said, adding that 53 people had already been convicted. Nevertheless, officials acknowledged that the operation represents only a fraction of the crimes being committed on the Internet. Identity theft alone costs the U.S. businesses more than $50 billion a year, Ashcroft said. Law enforcement officials in Romania, Nigeria and Cyprus helped track down people involved in fraudulent auctions, trafficking in stolen credit card numbers and other crimes, Ashcroft said. In all, authorities have opened more than 160 investigations and filed 117 criminal complaints, indictments and other court papers, according to the Justice Department. As a result of one investigation, for example, a grand jury on Wednesday indicted the chief executive of a Massachusetts communications company and five other people suspected of launching an Internet attack against competing companies. The indictment against Jay Echouafni accuses him of using computer hackers in the United States and Britain to disable the Web sites of three competitors. The episode cost Echouafni's rivals more than $2 million in lost revenue and extra costs, Ashcroft said. In another case, federal prosecutors in Los Angeles filed charges August 20 against a man who they say stole almost $800,000 over the Internet by conducting more than 5,000 fraudulent sales through the online auction site eBay Inc. Ashcroft also said he was ordering prosecutors to put into effect new, stiffer penalties against identity theft that were recently enacted by Congress. Source: http://www.reuters.co.uk Tetrascanner 9495 From: A Grudko Date: Sun Aug 29, 2004 0:01am Subject: RE: Does anybody have any interest? -----Original Message----- > I am asking this as I have several A.I.s (Artificial Intelligence, or > Daemons) that I developed, and have taught them to perform essential TSCM > functions on these radios completely under computer control. Fast ID and elimination (as non threatening) of common digital signals such as DECT or GSM would be very useful. I'd think this where a proper DSP type of PCI/ PCMCIA card could come into use with a regular laptop. However you have to have the complete suite of software to identify the mode 'cos as I understand it even 'standard' WI-FI has 4 modulation modes depending on the basic channel speed, using multiple channels to increase the throughput. And 'buggers' might tweak a standard unit off mode (the fiends)... Then you have to get down to the IP layer to start decoding the Data to confirm. Ouch! Mucho processing. I tend to revert to basics - "there's a 2.4775 Gig signal coming out of this ashtray - I can't confirm it's a bug but it's very unusual for ashtrays to do this" - but am open to new methods Andy Grudko (British), DPM, Grad IS (South Africa) MIS/Grudko Associates, Est. 1981. PSIRA reg. No. 8642 www.grudko.com , agrudko@i... Pretoria HO (+27 12) 244 0255 - 244 0256 (Fax) Branches: Sandton (+27 11) 465 9673 - 465 1487 (Fax) Johannesburg (+27 11) 781 7206 - 781 7207(Fax) Mid Rand (+27 11) 318 1451 - 318 6846(Fax) Cellular (+27) 82 778 6355 - ICQ 146498943 SACI(Pres) SASA, IPA, WAD, CALI, UKPIN, IWWA. "When you need it done right - first time" --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release Date: 2004/08/24 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 9496 From: Gerald Date: Sun Aug 29, 2004 2:33am Subject: technical surveillance penetration of PCs Thank you for the Gentle notice. I gained some very valuable insights from observations of the reactions to my post regarding wire taps using PC Mic's and web cams. Post is located here: http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/TSCM-L/message/9437 I do use metasploit for testing (sorry about the typo). In my attempt to "raise the bar" regarding technical surveillance penetration of PCs I was very surprised to find so many professionals in denial about the security of their computers. The personal attacks stem from the need to believe their computer and the Internet is safe, and the investment they have in this belief even when presented with evidence to the contrary. We are experiencing a paradigm shift in capability of automated technical surveillance penetration of PCs. The financial motive for this is huge, ID theft, the fall out is very high risk, for bug detection and PC's as the vector. Granted it isn't there yet that I can demonstrate, but I can present a very good circumstantial case. Crossing Rootkits, automated attack bots, metasploit, keylogger or eavesdropper and a worm presents almost impossible detection case, and wide spread infection potential, with ease of use by a Newbie. There are exploits for MS IE and OS that are not publicly known yet or patched. And it is just a matter of time if it hasn't already been done before we are facing that, if we are not already (combined threat virii). These are already being done without hooks, hiding in sectors marked bad on your hard drive or flash memory or in the kernel. My evidence is good, but of course I cannot yet prove these thinga have been combined, yet. And I do have a method of discovering rootkits regardless of where or how they are hidden. I think all my links are good if not please contact me here wiezor8@m... What is an Internet anthropologist? http://www.msu.edu/~wieczor8/def.htm I'd like to thank everyone who replied to my post and contributed to my research. Gerald Internet Anthropologist 9497 From: James M. Atkinson Date: Sun Aug 29, 2004 2:37pm Subject: Looking for Supplier - Precision Inductors I am looking for a supplier of a large number of precision shielded inductors, I need both adjustable (can type) and small fixed value (axial leads). I would prefer to buy the cores/forms for the axial inductors and wind them myself, but I need a matching mu sleeve. Both will be used for TSCM -jma ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Expertly Hunt Real Spies, Real Eavesdroppers, and Real Wiretappers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 381-9111 Granite Island Group Fax: 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Web: http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 Email: mailto:jmatk@tscm.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Class, Professional, Ethical, and Competent Bug Sweeps, and Wiretap Detection using Sophisticated Laboratory Grade Test Equipment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9498 From: Date: Sun Aug 29, 2004 5:43am Subject: From Cryptome.org 28 August 2004. NASA has removed this announcement of a TSCM sole-source contract award, and asked a mail list to remove the link to it (Cryptome has not been contacted). Apparently the announcement revealed a classified TSCM system and provided evaluation of other TSCM systems used by the government. NASA, State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency were reportedly involved in contracting for the system. The system is now likely to be abandoned due to this announcement being published. Source on 25 August 2004: http://www.eps.gov/spg/NASA/HQ/OPHQDC/NNH04073384Q/SynopsisP.html 63--SCENARIOFLEX PORTABLE TECHNICAL SURVEILLANCE COUNTER MEASURES SYSTEM General Information Document Type: Presolicitation Notice Solicitation Number: NNH04073384Q Posted Date: Aug 24, 2004 Original Response Date: Sep 07, 2004 Current Response Date: Sep 07, 2004 Original Archive Date: Aug 24, 2005 Current Archive Date: Aug 24, 2005 Classification Code: 63 -- Alarm, signal & security detection equipment Naics Code: 561621 -- Security Systems Services (except Locksmiths) Contracting Office Address NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center, NASA Headquarters Acquisition Branch, Code 210.H, Greenbelt, MD 20771 Description NASA intends to award a sole source contract to SystemWare, Inc. of Thousand Oaks, California, pursuant to 10 U.S.C. 2304(c)(1), only one responsible source. This procurement is for the purchase of the ScenarioFlex Portable Technical Surveillance Countermeasures (TSCM) System. This system will include the hardware and software that make up the system plus an extended warranty and maintenance agreement of three years. The ScenarioFlex Portable TSCM System is a self contained computer using the vendor's proprietary hardware and software configured in such a way by the vendor that it can detect, analyze, identify, and discriminate among radio frequency signals and electrical impulses in a far more sophisticated manner than lesser such systems available to private industry. This ScenarioFlex Portable TSCM System being purchased was developed by SystemWare, Inc. to meet standards set by the U. S. Army and the Department of Defense. Those standards are considered in the counter surveillance community to be the highest and most sensitive available for use by U. S. Government agencies. SystemWare is the sole supplier of the ScenarioFlex Portable TSCM System. The ScenarioFlex Portable TSCM System also is an upgrade of this type of system usually found in private industry applications. The private industry version would not be acceptable to NASA. The upgraded application is available only to U. S. Government agencies, and it was developed to U. S. Army and Department of Defense specifications. This is the highest level and most capable radio frequency and electronic signal detection, analysis and identification system available for counter surveillance inspection and detection work generally available to U. S. Government agencies. The ScenarioFlex Portable TSCM System contains 17 hardware and software components, among which 10 are proprietary items that only SystemWare, Inc. can provide. Any such counter surveillance inspection and detection equipment acquired needs to be the same as used by other Federal agencies, because NASA Security Specialists team with those other agencies to perform inspection and detection sweeps at different locations. All the different agency specialists involved in those sweeps have to be able to operate each other's equipment without difficulty or delay in order to conduct the sweeps effectively. Familiarity with the equipment and its capabilities and characteristics is of paramount importance to the NASA Security Specialists and the Security Specialists of other Federal agencies who will be sharing each other's equipment. The ScenerioFlex Portable TSCM System not only fulfills NASA's functional requirements, but, more importantly, it is the system being used by most of the other Federal agencies that Code NASA Security Specialists will be working with in shared services situations. The Government does not intend to acquire a commercial item using FAR Part 12. See Note 26. See note 22. Oral communications are not acceptable in response to this notice. All responsible sources may submit an offer which shall be considered by the agency. Any determination by the Government not to compete this proposed effort on a full and open competition basis, based upon responses to this notice, is solely within the discretion of the government. An Ombudsman has been appointed. See NASA Specific Note "B". Any referenced notes may be viewed at the following URLs linked below. Original Point of Contact Delia B. Robey, Contracting Officer, Phone (301) 286-8109, Fax (301) 286-0357, Email Delia.B.Robey.1@g... Email your questions to Delia B. Robey at Delia.B.Robey.1@g... Current Point of Contact Delia B. Robey, Contracting Officer, Phone (301) 286-8109, Fax (301) 286-0357, Email Delia.B.Robey.1@g... Email your questions to Delia B. Robey at Delia.B.Robey.1@g... 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